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Forum topic by BuddyC posted 04-25-2016 01:45 AM 711 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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BuddyC

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04-25-2016 01:45 AM

Hello,
Just found the group. I live in N.W. Arkansas. I like to buy, use and find new homes for old tools. I do some woodworking when I can.

I just picked up this old bevel square. First because I just like these old tools and second because I was intrigued by the brass insert in the wood.

No other marks on it. I was wondering if anyone had seen this before and if it tells us who the maker was and an idea of the age.

Kindest Regards
BuddyC


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theoldfart

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#1 posted 04-25-2016 10:16 PM

Funny thing, I just found one as well

I can’t find any makers mark on it except for the letter P on the brass insert. Have you had any luck finding anything about it?

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#2 posted 04-25-2016 10:40 PM

Just found one on EBay

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putty

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#3 posted 04-25-2016 10:48 PM

too much of a coincidence… must be a Chinese knockoff

-- Putty

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#4 posted 04-25-2016 10:54 PM

:-)

The one on the bay looks pretty beat up but the guy is still asking 30 plus shipping.

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BuddyC

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#5 posted 04-26-2016 02:53 AM

I can t find any makers mark on it except for the letter P on the brass insert. Have you had any luck finding anything about it?

- theoldfart

I don’t see any mark on mine. Guess we each have one of a kind

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Aidan1211

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#6 posted 04-26-2016 12:02 PM

Asking prices on that auction site are usually pretty crazy. Asking and getting are two different things. As far as age it’s not to new because if my eyes aren’t screwing with me the handles on each one of your bevel gauges are rosewood something that has been pretty hard to find for quite some time and is now illegal to harvest. As far as the brass insert that could have been just an esthetic thing or it could be the makers signature. A ton of different companies that really had no business making those things made them. Do all of you guys have a “P” stamped in the brass? How is the brass applied is it separate pieces screwed on or folded and screwed or no screws at all. If there are screws what type are they flat head or Philips? Have you LIGHTLY cleaned the brass in search of a makers mark? By lightly I mean super easy on it with some quad ought steel wool. Let me know I’ll see what I can find for you guys.

Either way whether you find out their identity or not they are pretty nice and I would definitely own one!

Robert

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theoldfart

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#7 posted 04-26-2016 12:15 PM

Robert, brass rivets were used. Maybe escutcheon pins.

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#8 posted 04-26-2016 12:18 PM

Solid brass core and wood applied to the surface?

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#9 posted 04-26-2016 12:38 PM

Don’t think it’s a disston or Stanley or marples or any other major maker as far as I’ve been able to see in my old catalogs but I’ll keep looking if I find it listed I’ll let you guys know. Like I said earlier it’s a darn nice looking piece though so even if it’s an “unknown maker” it still aughta clean up nice and be cool to use. My gut tells me it would be before WWII because of the brass shortage and companies shying away from using it since because of cost. The rosewood also says that to me as well. So I’m looking at late 1800’s up til about 1939 ish while doing my search for you. If you come across something on it after you clean it a little let me know so I can narrow my search down a little. Another thing to look into is the time frame in which thumb screws were starting to be produced and roughly how long was that type common until. Given that Stanley started making the lever style lock and it seems a lot of companies follow suit. Not sure if that was a Stanley invention or stolen by Stanley and patented. They were really good about doing that. If you can pm me with more pictures. I hate seeing something nice and not being sure who made it and from where it came.

Robert

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theoldfart

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#10 posted 04-26-2016 01:34 PM

No, solid rosewood, brass endplates and insert. Brass bushing for the screw. All the marks are owner marks. Probably not Stanley, Goodell, nor Millers falls.

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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bandit571

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#11 posted 04-26-2016 03:17 PM

That wouldn’t be a Swedish fish on the side of it?? Did Berg make these things?

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theoldfart

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#12 posted 04-26-2016 04:33 PM

BANDIT, i don’t know but it is worth following up. I’ll check it out.

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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BuddyC

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#13 posted 04-27-2016 02:11 AM

I’m glad this stimulated a conversation. It is a nice tool. Here are more photos that may address some questions asked…..

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