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Forum topic by Sequel posted 04-22-2016 03:07 AM 812 views 0 times favorited 15 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Sequel

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04-22-2016 03:07 AM

i am looking to upgrade from my Dewalt DW735 table saw and have been searching Craigslist for a while now looking for another saw. i came across a Grizzly G1023SLX left tilt, with 53” cut capacity, 3HP, 220. it was manufactured in 2005 and has been in a one-man cabinet shop ever since. it did not see daily use and hasnt been used in the past 8 months. the owner upgraded to a Saw Stop since his sone will be working in the shop this summer. tha machine looks to be in great shape. it is 3 hrs from me, so i havent seen it in person. the guy is asking $900. compared to a brand new model from grizzly RL series with same specs, it seems to be a good price. but if you look at what it cost new in 2005, i think it was right under $1,000. it has seen 10 yrs of use. so what do you think is a fair price to offer? it is located in VA.


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Boberto

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#1 posted 04-22-2016 09:20 AM

New prices in catalog for the 1023 are $1350-$1625 plus shipping. I wouldn’t give more than 1/2 price of new. It’s already 11yrs old, too. I have a 1yr old 690 -basically the same saw-and its a great saw. Try to work him down a little.

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knotscott

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#2 posted 04-22-2016 09:28 AM

$750-$800 is more inline. See if he’ll agree on that range before you go see it…. push on the fact that it no longer has warranty and doeasn’t have a modern riving knife. Let us know how you make out!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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jgt1942

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#3 posted 04-25-2016 03:21 AM

I have a DW746 that I just upgraded with a riving knife (cost just over $200) and would suggest that you consider only saws that have a riving knife just for the safety factor. If you really want the first class then I’d recommend the SawStop which will stop the rotating blade in a heart beat. I’ve taken classes at my local college and they have two in the shop and they have prevented several injuries. The big downside of any top of the line table saws is the cost. The SawStop I’d get would cost over $3k.

Good luck, let us know what you do.

-- JohnT

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skatefriday

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#4 posted 04-25-2016 03:32 AM

See the “Craigslist posters have gone nuts” thread.

I second the riving knife comments.

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MrUnix

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#5 posted 04-25-2016 06:08 AM

I wouldn’t pay more than $500 for it, and probably not even that. For $900, you can get a lot more saw.
(For example, there is a 5HP PM72 w/Biesemeyer fence in my area right now, in fantastic shape for $900!).

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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Sequel

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#6 posted 04-28-2016 02:09 PM

update: having pulled the trigger yet on anything. been holding out. while i am still interested in the Grizzly, i found a Shop Fox W1748 that is 6 yrs old from a hobbyist workshop. i know the Grizz is a cabinet saw and the Shop Fox is a hybrid. neither have a riving knife or splitter, but i figured i could add the micro jig splitter http://www.microjig.com/products/mj-splitter/

the Shop Fox is $500

i guess my main question is, even though neither has a riving knife, will adding the mj splitter suffice?

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jgt1942

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#7 posted 04-28-2016 04:58 PM

Very late one night after I got whacked really hard because I did not have a splitter or riving knife. The next day I installed a splitter and for over two years this served me.

Sometimes when making a cut that does not go through completely through the wood I’d be forced to remove the splitter so I could complete the cut. Because mine was bolted in it would take 10-15 minutes. With the Micro Jig you are looking at the removal is just seconds.

I actually have the Micro Jig but for whatever reasons I never installed it. The Micro Jig will server you well and is a MUCH less expensive option than the route I took to install a true riving knife in my DW746.

BTW I did remove the sharp corners from my temp splitter. The image was not the final splitter. I also made a zero clearance insert.

-- JohnT

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knotscott

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#8 posted 04-28-2016 05:25 PM

A well placed splitter can be nearly as effective as a good riving knife when it’s in place. I wouldn’t let the riving knife aspect prevent the purchase of a good used saw….just be sure to use it whenever possible.

With that said, the Shop Fox W1748 was about the same saw as the former Grizzly G0478. Both solid hybrid designs, but both give up a lot compared to the G1023SL. That doesn’t mean it couldn’t be a great saw for you, but wanted you to know that there are substantial differences under the hood:

G0478 trunnions:

G1023SL trunnions:

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Sequel

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#9 posted 04-28-2016 06:40 PM

as i was typing this morning the Grizzly sold. i fully understand the differences in the trunnions between cabinet and hybrid. my budget is in the $600 and below range. i believe that the Shop Fox is a good value @ $500 and will do everything i want it to do, but everything i read says to bypass a hybrid and get a cabinet. he has other tools available as well, since he is getting rid of his entire shop. all items will go for sale during a yard sale saturday, but he is willing to let me have what i want at full asking price before then. problem is, he is 2 hrs away and i cant be there saturday. i thought about risking it and seeing what sells on saturday morning and then call him up in the afternoon and see what is left. its rolling the dice a little, but i am willing to take a chance for a better deal.

http://lynchburg.craigslist.org/gms/5559125503.html

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#10 posted 04-28-2016 07:04 PM

A good hybrid like that with a good fence, solid cast wings, and a full enclosure can be a very serviceable saw, given good alignment and good blade selection. A Craftsman 22124 was all that I needed and more, til a deal on a Shop Fox cabinet saw came along. There’s not much argument that a 3hp industrial cabinet saw is more substantial, but you do more than just fine with a good hybrid. A $600 budget is more likely to put you into a hybrid unless you stumble into one of those great deals.

The guys takes good care of his tools. $500 does seem pretty fair for it in that condition with the mobile base. Good luck! That jointer looks well worth $250 too!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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jgt1942

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#11 posted 04-28-2016 07:12 PM

I suspect that all of the tools are in super great shape. The saw looks great and I’d suggest telling him it is now yours. Ask him if he has any other table saw accessories he can throw in.

-- JohnT

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Sequel

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#12 posted 04-28-2016 08:20 PM

i asked about the accessories, like sleds blades etc. he said he didnt have anything other than what is in the picture. it is wired for 120V, but he does have the 220V switch conversion he will give with the saw. thanks for the input. if i get it, ill post an update.

what are the key points to concentrate on when looking at the saw?

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bbc557ci

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#13 posted 04-28-2016 09:23 PM

Grab as many of those clamps as you can too!! Can’t ever have too many clamps, and decent new ones are pricey.

-- Bill, central NY...no where near the "big apple"

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knotscott

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#14 posted 04-28-2016 09:51 PM


...what are the key points to concentrate on when looking at the saw?

- Sequel

Overall condition is a biggie….check it out thoroughly topside and underneath for any major cracks or breakage. Check the fence, handwheels, and switch for obvious issues. Pulleys and belts are easy to adjust or fix, but are worth looking just to be sure they look normal.

It’s good to know any known systemic issues with a given saw…I don’t recall any issues with this saw….I think they stopped production due to upcoming riving knife requirements. Check that the bearings don’t squeal and that the motor runs as it should. Table flatness is always worth checking, but I really don’t too anal about that…it’d take a rather large deviation to really pose a problem that translates to the cut.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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jgt1942

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#15 posted 04-29-2016 12:32 AM



i asked about the accessories, like sleds blades etc. he said he didnt have anything other than what is in the picture. it is wired for 120V, but he does have the 220V switch conversion he will give with the saw. thanks for the input. if i get it, ill post an update.

what are the key points to concentrate on when looking at the saw?

- Sequel


220v is better if you have the power. Currently my DW746 is still wired for 120v and for 12 years it has been on the list to re-wire for 220v. Hopefully this summer I will finally get it rewired.

KnotScott gave you some great advice. Just from the picture of it and the other tools I’m sold on it.

If you have limited area the wheels in the base will make it easy to move. I decided to remove my wheel base and went for a more permanent setup. I have a 2-car garage and facing the doors from the inside I used the left bay for the saw. It is on the right side of the bay opening with a 52” extension thus the right side of the max width board will just clear the door. Thus as I’m facing the saw for cutting the piece goes from the inside of my garage to the outside. Thus I can cut very long pieces, which I have done.

I’m, 6’1” and raised the height of the saw to match my 39 1/2” height workbench (also on wheels) thus I can use the WB for feed support inside the garage. On the outside of the saw I have an extension (I converted it to a folding extension). On the project list is to make this extension the width of the saw. If I need more support on the outside extension I setup roller stands.

-- JohnT

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