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04-18-2016 03:34 PM

I’m finally going to mount a router in my table saw extension table, and could use some experienced advice. I plan to purchase a Kregg insert plate, and use my table saw fence (with a jig set up) for the fence and dust collection. My question for those of you that have done this (or have an opinion on the matter) is, which router should I mount under the table? I have a Freud FT2000E 3 1/4 HP plunge router, a Bosch 1617 combo base 2 1/4 HP router, and a DeWalt 610 fixed base 1 1/4 router. My first choice would be to put the Freud under the table for two reasons. One, at 3 1/4 HP, it’ll handle any job I have. Two, it’s heavy and a beast to use above the table. The Bosch 1617 is much easier to use above the table. My question regarding mounting the Freud is the plunge base. Does it matter to mount a plunge base vs a fixed base under a table? My second choice would be to put the Bosch under the table in the fixed base (if necessary), but I like it’s versatility above the table. Kregg makes a plate pre-drilled for the Bosch, but not the Freud. I’d like to get the right plate the first time out, and not have to do any redrilling.

A bonus would be advice on where to place the router and plate in the table. My extension table is to the right of the blade, and approx. 53” long. My inclination is to center it (front to back) near the far end of the table, leaving enough room to work with bigger pieces.

Your insight, as always, would be greatly appreciated

Thanks,

-- John - Huntington Beach, CA --- Growth occurs when we get out of our comfort zone.


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#1 posted 04-18-2016 03:57 PM

Fixed base routers are preferred for table mounting, because the spring on plunge routers makes them harder to adjust. However some plunge routers allow you to remove the springs, making them workable for router table applications.

My biggest deciding factors when choosing a table router were…
1. Collet extends above the table for easy bit changes. I had a 3hp Hitachi that required me to crane under the table to get wrenches on the collet (or else remove the whole router from the table). Needless to say that got old really quick. If the collet has adequate extension, you can get both wrenches on the router from above the table.
2. Easy to access height lock, depth adjustment, and collet lock. Topside controls are a plus, but not essential.

My two table routers are Freud FT1700’s with topside controls. The FT3000 has those features too, but I’m not sure the FT2000 does.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#2 posted 04-18-2016 04:03 PM

Willie,
Are those FT1700’s fixed base or plunge base?

-- John - Huntington Beach, CA --- Growth occurs when we get out of our comfort zone.

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#3 posted 04-19-2016 12:03 PM

Answered my own question, Willie. Those 1700’s are a fixed base router, as you suggested. I noticed that they also met your other requirements.

-- John - Huntington Beach, CA --- Growth occurs when we get out of our comfort zone.

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#4 posted 04-19-2016 12:20 PM

The FT2000 does not have the topside features of the FT1700 and FT3000. It also has a smaller throat that limits the diameter of bits that’ll easily pass through, so you need to do some workarounds with the fence on occasion. Otherwise, it is a strong runner with variable speed control. IIRC, I removed the springs from my FT2000 to give it a bit more height above the table. IMO none of your routers are ideal for table use, but I’d opt for the FT2000 simply because it’s just not all that feasible for hand use on a regular basis, while the Bosch and DW certainly are.

p.s.: the FT1700 had both fixed and plunge bases available, but I don’t think they’re even available any longer….too bad, b/c I really like mine.

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#5 posted 04-19-2016 01:45 PM

knotscott, thanks for the information. I see a couple of FT1700’s on CL for $150. If I’m going to set this router system up, I want to do it right the first time. Maybe I need to get a router that works well under a table.

-- John - Huntington Beach, CA --- Growth occurs when we get out of our comfort zone.

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#6 posted 04-19-2016 02:19 PM

I know you want to use the routers you have if you are considering a replacement,here’s what has worked for me, having two router tables one has a 7518 PC and the other has a triton I like the Triton for it’s built in lift and because the collect comes above the table top for easy bit changes.

http://www.amazon.com/Triton-TRA001-Precision-Plunge-Router/dp/B00779ND0Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1461074823&sr=8-1&keywords=triton+router+tra001

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#7 posted 04-19-2016 02:33 PM



I know you want to use the routers you have if you are considering a replacement,here s what has worked for me, having two router tables one has a 7518 PC and the other has a triton I like the Triton for it s built in lift and because the collect comes above the table top for easy bit changes.

http://www.amazon.com/Triton-TRA001-Precision-Plunge-Router/dp/B00779ND0Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1461074823&sr=8-1&keywords=triton+router+tra001

- a1Jim

+1, if you don’t mind buying a new router. I have the TRA001 mounted in my table and I love it. The adjustment mechanism is excellent, and the spindle locks automatically when raised all the way for single-wrench, above-table bit changes.

I can’t compare it to the Freud, but I used to have a Bosch 1617 in my table and the Triton is worlds apart for both performance and ease of use.

-- Dan in Minneapolis, woodworking since 11/11.

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#8 posted 04-19-2016 02:40 PM

Jim and Dan, thanks. I will look into the Triton TRA001. I believe that one of the Kregg plates is predrilled for the Triton. Might be my solution. I’m sure I could sell my Freud on CL, to recoup some cost.

-- John - Huntington Beach, CA --- Growth occurs when we get out of our comfort zone.

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#9 posted 04-19-2016 02:59 PM



Jim and Dan, thanks. I will look into the Triton TRA001. I believe that one of the Kregg plates is predrilled for the Triton. Might be my solution. I m sure I could sell my Freud on CL, to recoup some cost.

- JK0702

That would be my recommendation; the TRA001 is (I think) basically made to be table-mounted. It’s a beast, and I can’t really ever see myself using it handheld.

Mine also is in a table saw extension. I’ve got a G1023RL with the Bench Dog cast iron extension and aluminum ProPlate. The plate was perfectly predrilled for mounting, I just had to drill out a hole for the above-table height adjustment wrench. Which I barely ever even use, because the adjustment mechanism is so slick it’s actually more convenient just to turn the knob under the table in most cases.

-- Dan in Minneapolis, woodworking since 11/11.

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