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03-21-2010 03:39 PM

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw blade milling saw safety sawstop powermatic ridgid help

Hi jocks. I live in Maryland and I am looking to replace my ridgid cast iron table saw with a bigger and heavier cabinet saw. Like most men, i have my eyes on the Powermatic PM2000. I also have my eye on the pricetag of over $2500. Woodcraft has them. And, I can hardly find them on ebay or Craigslist. Does anyone here have any ideas? Also, is this truly the best saw? Grizzly looks good and so does Shop Fox. I am not much of a Delta guy, even though they have the most expensive one.
What do you guys use? I want the heaviness and no vibrations and of course accuracy.
Anyone around this state have one for sale? Any donations to my obsessive hobby :)
I read the topic from the guy who said there is a lawsuit because someone cut himself on a saw. Well, so did I but I didnt sue someone just because i was stupid, but still lost the best part of my thumb. I do like the riving knife idea though, that would saved my thumb. I have heard that the sawstop idea is a great idea on paper, but not always practical in the shop. Apparently you can bypass the moisture sensor if your material is a bit wet. Well, guess what Todd would do.
Let me know guys.


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#1 posted 03-21-2010 03:48 PM

Todd…dont discount looking at other PM or Delta models on Ebay or Craigs list. There are also other websites that sell used equipment if you dont care to buy a new one. I happen to have an 1988 PM66 which I bought used several years ago and it looks and runs like new. I paid about half what it would have costed new. I am (as you can see by my shop pixs) a Powermatic guy. I still feel the PM and Delta cabinet saws rate way up there at the top, but like you have seen, very expensive. The PM2000 probably hasnt been out long enough to see many on the used list, but a used 66 or Unisaw will be just as good….maybe even better since like they say, they dont make them like they used to.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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#2 posted 03-21-2010 04:02 PM

keep looking on ebay i see whole set ups for cheap money, ofcourse this is after i boght a brandnew delta unisaw.

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop,

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#3 posted 03-21-2010 04:08 PM

Todd. This month’s issue of Wood Magazine(May 2010 issue 197) has a current table saw review with the PM 2000 in it. They rated it highly. You might want to pick up a copy and see the pro’s and con’s of this and other models

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#4 posted 03-21-2010 04:08 PM

Todd, I have used the Grizzly 3HP Cabinet saws and had good luck but then purchased the PM2000 about 1 year ago. I feel Grizzly makes a great Cabinet saw but am allot happier with the PM2000 primarily because of the riving knife, built in mobile base. Also the cast Iron base makes this thing heay so there is liitle to no vibration. I only have one complaint about the PM2000 and that was the foreign made motor, went through two of them in which Powermatic replaced promptly so my recommendation to you is make sure you purchase one with the american made motor.
If your cashed strapped though like most of us I would consider the Grizzly again.

Good luck on your decision.

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#5 posted 03-21-2010 05:26 PM

I have read good reviews on the Canadian made General 350/650 w riving knife. Doing construction in Seattle where our material is always a bit wet, as in pond dried I would never go with a sawstop.

-- measure once, keep cuttin' til it fits

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#6 posted 03-21-2010 05:40 PM

I’m always frustrated to find an auction website selling quality american made equipment for pennies on the dollar only in the northeast portion of the US. You live within 200 miles of one of the most industrialized areas in the world. If you have or can rent a trailer and if you don’t mind removing a little surface rust or changing out bearings, look at school auctions and government sites. Just a thought.

-- Better woodworking through old hand tools.

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#7 posted 03-21-2010 06:07 PM

Todd, check out (not affiliated with the government). There are several auctions going on in your area every month. I know there’s one ending on the 29th in Thurmont Maryland that has a couple used saws going for next to nothing.

Here’s the current table saw index

-- Big John's Woodshed - Farmington, IL

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#8 posted 03-21-2010 06:32 PM

Thanks a lot for the help and info here guys. You’re great!

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#9 posted 03-21-2010 06:53 PM

Todd – I picked up a Shop Fox W1677 in 2008. It’s essentially a white Grizzly G1023SL. Very nice saw for the money, very stable, plenty of power, good fit and finish, nice fence, 2 yr warranty, etc. I shifted the fence rails right by 10” for a 36” rip capacity, added a router table, and replaced the Shop Fox Classic fence with a Jet Exacta II so I could add the HTC 4000 router fence attachment.

This was the older style saw with a splitter, but I’ve added a retrofit aftermarket riving knife called a “BORK” (Bolt On Ripping Knife) developed by fellow wwer Bob Ross of Walnutacre WWing….

Overall I’ve been very happy with the saw. I’m sure some of the higher dollar saws are nicer, but this one’s more than adequate for what I do.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#10 posted 03-21-2010 07:19 PM

Powermatic replaced the PM66 With the PM2000 so being fairly new there’s not as many used ones out there yet. You would find it hard to go wrong with an older PM66 and they are out there to find.

-- Robert - Haven Wood Crafts

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#11 posted 03-21-2010 08:13 PM

Todd I have used a PM66 for years and it’s a great saw. I also feel compelled to suggest a Saw Stop for it’s safety and reviews rate them very well also. I also would suggest getting a copy of this months Wood magazine with it’s table saw review.

-- wood crafting & woodworking classes

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#12 posted 03-21-2010 11:44 PM

Todd, the PM2000 is a solid saw and like Wayne I am also a PM fan and am sure you would be happy with one. PM table saws generally are discounted around November, December, and January. I am not sure if you can wait this long or not. I nearly pulled the trigger on one about a year ago and it was going for around 2100, I believe.

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#13 posted 03-22-2010 01:55 AM

John Steffen, great link on those auctions!

-- Paul Ciura (Tampa, FL)

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#14 posted 03-22-2010 05:36 PM

Todd…just to correct a past comment, Powermatic still makes the PM66.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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#15 posted 03-23-2010 04:08 AM

My mistake. Point was that used 66’s are easier to find.

-- Robert - Haven Wood Crafts

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