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03-21-2010 03:41 AM

We’re in a process of finding someplace warmer to live than northern New Hampshire, so we’re taking a two-week trip through the southern states. We made it to Virginia today after a long drive from RI and eight other states. I’m always happy to be past New Jersey and really wish they’d secede from the nation (I know I should feel the need to apologize to those who might like that state, but the need is just not that great at this point. Sorry!). We spoke with a very nice lady in one state’s Welcome center who lost her home and now has to work part time just to buy food – so many sad stories out there.

Tomorrow, I get to fulfill a lifelong dream of driving Shenandoah’s skyline drive and seeing Jefferson’s Monticello, and the next three days for other historical sites, including the homes of Madison, Monroe, Stonewall Jackson, and Lee’s last home (we saw his first home, Arlington House, two years ago). My wife, Veronika should have her fill of Civil War history lectors from me by the end of the second day – perhaps by tomorrow. Today, she learned more about Nat Turner’s slave revolt, and John Brown’s attack at Harpers Ferry, and why it used to be in Virginia and is now in West Virginia, than she ever wanted to know. But she’s now a US citizen, and every citizen needs to know their history, or suffer through it being repeated.

Let me know if this is not an appropriate forum, and I’ll stop.


-- John from Hampstead

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#1 posted 03-21-2010 03:53 AM

Welcome to Virginia John, I’m not sure an apology is needed for NJ, Everyone from NJ down here I know, feel the same way! Be sure to stop off at Big meadows whils in the Shenadoah national park, its a neat area, if you go to the lodge there is an out cropping of rocks just a couple hundred feet from parking with a spectacular view. I hope it is open, I know there wer a lot of downed trees over the winter and too few $$ to pay for cleanup.
Charles Neil is in New Market, Va. if you can sneak some woodworking in while doing the history stuff.
If you make to Harrisonburg of Staunton let me know I would love to meet up and say hello. I’ll PM you my cell.

-- Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement.

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#2 posted 03-21-2010 05:48 AM

You say you are looking for a warmer climate in which to build your new shop???? That’s perfectly accepted here…no problem. By the way, I’m in NE Texas and it’s snowing tonight….

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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#3 posted 03-21-2010 07:52 AM

Warmer climate? Well you’ll have to come to Hawaii. There are plenty of woodworkers over here, we even have our own Woodcraft Store and Lowes and several Home Depot stores. One additional benefit of Hawaii’s weather is that you can work 52 weeks a year (if you like) and you won’t have to shovel a path to the shop or add a heater. Think about it….......

-- cathyb, Hawaii,

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#4 posted 03-21-2010 07:59 AM

come to the left coast. Weather is a little more stable over here though in the North it rains a bit more than you probably want.

-- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

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#5 posted 03-21-2010 10:29 PM

We moved to eastern Tennessee from SW NH last fall and it is a pleasant change from the winter weather up north. Although I loved NH, we had a large property that just took too much effort especially in the winter so a move south was in order. We are just south of Knoxville and there is a local woodworking guild that I just found early this month. The Eastern Tennessee Woodworkers Guild meets in Maryville every other month but has a full array of other activities between meetings. Great people-a nice climate-and a lower cost of living. By the way, we lived in NJ for 9 years and hated the traffic. However there were a number of positives as long as you stay off the Turnpike and the GS Parkway. There are many good things about the area but I certainly would not want to live there again.

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#6 posted 03-21-2010 11:16 PM

Wow, I’m amazed!
I grew up in Nashua, and although I’ve lived in lots of places, finding a place to live, and a WAY to live, in northern New Hampshire is a dream for a lot of people I know. You name the city, Berlin, Warren, Lincoln, Pittsburgh, they’ve all beckoned to me over the years. Guess the grass is always greener someplace else! AND… you’ll miss the character of native Granite-Staters…it’s like noplace else. However, mid-coast, Virginia or North Carolina, isn’t too bad either. Tough if you’ve gotta pull yourselves up by your bootstraps, though! The best places geographically can be the toughest to earn your living unless you can hit the ground running.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#7 posted 03-21-2010 11:19 PM

I’m selling my mom’s house in Vero Beach, Florida.

-- Chip ----------- 6:8

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#8 posted 03-22-2010 12:26 AM

Stop by and take a look at Chattanooga, Tn Hermit….you will love the mountains and scenery.

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell

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#9 posted 03-22-2010 12:42 AM

Err… isn’t there like no tax in New Hampshire? To me, that’s an incentive to stay!

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#10 posted 03-22-2010 12:53 AM

My Mum and Dad owned a house in Vero Beach, thoroughly enjoyed the town, when our kids were small. Their address was 1976 31st Ave., don’t remember the postal code. Sold it about 1981, and havn’t been back. Tried to see it on Google Earth, but think it is gone now to upgrade the road leading up to I 95.

-- Jack Keefe Shediac NB Canada

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#11 posted 03-22-2010 01:18 AM

Yes, mtkate, no state income tax, no sales tax either in NH.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#12 posted 03-22-2010 01:30 AM

you have 10 acres..your own pond to fish…deep woods….man…i wouldnt wanna give it up…but i dont live in the cold anymore either…so follow your heart….if you make it to alabama and come up I65…and wanna stop and see a true southern mansion and gardens…we have it right next to us…stop on by… me for a phone number..enjoy your trip…

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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#13 posted 03-22-2010 03:42 AM

First off, thank you for your responses! I enjoyed reading all.

Secondly, the Shenandoah Skyline drive is spectacular, and Monticello exceeded all my expectations. One thing I’m learning about this area is that Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson have already earned sainthood in the hearts of Virginians. I must admit that in my opinion, sainthood for Lee might be more justifiable than some of the saints I know of. Well, sainthood is a bit strong here.

Cathy, I wish life were so simple for us to move to Hawaii.

Poopiekat, please believe me that this move is very hard for us in many ways, including leaving these wonderful, hearty, self-reliant, non-nonsense, charitable, and hardworking Granite-Staters who are my friends.

Mtkate, yup, we have no sales or income tax – but you should see my property tax bill! It’s five+ times what I’ve seen here in Virginia. There is no free lunch!

RockyTopScott, I’ve seen Chattanooga, and it is a wonderful place – just a few too many miles from grandchildren.

Tnwood, I think you hit the nail on the head. Our twenty acres, plus a mile of pond front property demands, as good stewards, a great deal of work, and at 30-below and 5 feet of snow on the ground and another blizzard in the forecast, the work seems a bit harder.

Now here’s the good news! We will be stopping by Grizzly in Muncy, PA on our way back! As we were packing the car to leave, I got a call from my tax guy, and I see a new lathe and band saw in my future, and I might take one of my fellow Lumberjack’s advice and ask for forgiveness and not permission.

-- John from Hampstead

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#14 posted 03-22-2010 02:47 PM

Yeah-right-no NH tax. My property tax on a 1810 house on 5acres of land on a country road in NH was $7000 a year. You want to take a guess at how much income tax or sales tax it would take to make up that much? No matter where you go, you are going to pay the bill. It just differs in what form it takes.

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