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Forum topic by Wondermutt posted 04-13-2016 03:36 PM 576 views 0 times favorited 4 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Wondermutt

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04-13-2016 03:36 PM

Guys- I have a few questions between the two. I have read the comparisons but as things go, I would like to hear from you guys that have owned or operated the two. I am a hobbyist and operate the saw about 20 hrs a week. I mainly cut 3/4 plywood (usually 5×5) and table size is not a concern, and 5/4 hardwoods.

With that here it goes:

Dust collection: Which of the two is better? This is the #1 consideration with this purchase.
Drivetrain: How has the gas strut serp belt system held up on the 1023? Any issues with the 3 belt setup on the 690?
Fence Systems: Both are good but which one is a better fence offered with the saws? 90% of what I what I craft will utilize sleds but was curious.
Motors: Are they the same?

I realize this topic has been hashed and re-hashed, but this will be my 20 year saw. Not being much of a internet “researcher”, I am looking for some direction for those that have experience with them.

Thanks in advance!


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#1 posted 04-14-2016 11:15 AM

Wondermutt – You’re question appears to be aimed at folks who are familiar with both saws… I suspect that population is small, which may be why there are no responses.

Based on what I’ve read, there’s really no best between either one these saws….both saws seem to have lots of happy fans, and very few detractors….especially for hobby use. It’s subjective and there are pros and cons with each. My Shop Fox W1677 has a trunnion and drive belt design that’s most similar to the G0690’s, but without the riving knife (though I’ve added the BORK system). It’s 8 years old and has posed zero issues to date. It holds settings, hasn’t required any belt attention, and plows through everything I’ve cut without hesitation. The G0690 supposedly has an Asian made Leeson motor….I don’t know if it’s better than the generic motor on the G1023, but I haven’t read about either motor being an issue. Whatever’s under the hood of the 1677 has been great.

My W1677 has the Shop Fox Classic fence, which is the stock fence on the current 1023R series saw….it’s a heavy duty copy that’s pretty similar to the design of the older commercial Biese fence. The G0690 has some updates to the t-square that could be an advantage, but I don’t think the tubing is quite is robust….I doubt very much if it’s an issue. The SF Classic only offers 26” rip capacity in it’s stock configuration, but either of these fences can easily be slid farther to the right to gain more capacity.

Dust collection in general poses several variables that go well beyond what the saw’s design influence. The blade, blade height, insert, dust collector, piping of the DC system, etc., are all factors with the DC in addition to the saw’s underside design. If DC is that important, I’d think you’d want to have some sort of top side DC in play, as I don’t think either system is going to grab all the dust. There are several things you can do to improve DC on any saw, so I don’t think I’d let that aspect sway me much….buy the saw you like, then go to town on your DC system til it’s satisfactory to you.

If I were in your shoes, I’d give the Grizzly techies a call and see what they have to say about the differences. The actual end performance is going to be largely impacted by setup and blade selection anyway. Good luck!

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#2 posted 04-14-2016 06:25 PM

Thanks knot. I was hoping someone had either used or owned both for a comparison. I knew it was a small chance but some guys like to upgrade and change thing up.

Got my answers from Grizzly tech. Pretty much in their own league compared to the POS hybrid I am using now.

On the dust collection. I have a great shop system. My concern is that I owned a shrouded saw and it would plug up the discharge port. I worked at a shop that had a cabinet collection system and it would get about 60% full before it would start removing the dust. Once there it worked great but until then it would blow dust out of the base and orfaces. It may sound silly but I have two airfiltration systems because I am prone to upper respiratory infections. So that is why dust collection/extraction is top on my list.

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#3 posted 04-14-2016 08:43 PM

I have neither of these systems; I have a POS hybrid instead.
But from an engineer’s perspective I like the strength inherent in the older design of the 690.
From a dust collection perspective I would have said the 1023 might be better since it has a shrouded blade, but you popped that bubble.

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#4 posted 04-14-2016 09:19 PM

I also have a shrouded table saw from Grizzly and the shroud is only part of the problem.
The other is that they only run a small hose to a 4” adaptor to the outside of the saw.

I had to take the bottom of the shroud and had to make a 4” port at the machine shop and then run a new hose and cut out the cabinet to let me get a 4” hose hooked directly to the shroud.

It can be made to work, but the way it’s set up originally is very poorly engineered.

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