LumberJocks

It had to happen! 50 lawsuits are pending...1.5mil awarded

  • Advertise with us

« back to Safety in the Woodworking Shop forum

Forum topic by DaveH posted 03-17-2010 05:14 PM 5240 views 0 times favorited 225 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View DaveH's profile

DaveH

400 posts in 2433 days


03-17-2010 05:14 PM

Apparently a jury awarded 1.5 mil to a man who was injured using a table saw without the flesh detecting technology that SawStop uses.

See the article

-- DaveH - Boise, Idaho - “How hard can it be? It's only wood!”


225 replies so far

View Peter Oxley's profile

Peter Oxley

1426 posts in 2530 days


#1 posted 03-17-2010 05:18 PM

Yeah, someone mentioned this before. What’s next? Suing car manufacturers because they didn’t include a governer that would prevent the car from going fast enough to get you hurt?

-- http://www.peteroxley.com -- http://north40studios.etsy.com --

View GFYS's profile

GFYS

711 posts in 2126 days


#2 posted 03-17-2010 05:35 PM

Hopefully this will result in only licensed proffessionals owning saws. :D

View RedShirt013's profile

RedShirt013

219 posts in 2317 days


#3 posted 03-17-2010 05:38 PM

I should’ve sued the company that made my bicycle. Last time I crashed no airbag deployed at all.

-- Ed

View FirehouseWoodworking's profile

FirehouseWoodworking

624 posts in 1928 days


#4 posted 03-17-2010 05:43 PM

That’s why 99% of lawyers give the others a bad reputation!

-- Dave; Lansing, Kansas

View Abbott's profile

Abbott

2570 posts in 1959 days


#5 posted 03-17-2010 06:02 PM

#@$%

-- Ohh mann...pancakes and boobies...I'll bet that's what Heaven is like! ♣ ♣ ♣ ♣

View SnowyRiver's profile

SnowyRiver

51451 posts in 2135 days


#6 posted 03-17-2010 06:34 PM

I hope Ryobi is appealing this. Maybe the saw manufacturers should get together and establish a defense fund for this crap. Leave it up to the lawyers. No wonder the country is falling apart.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

View reggiek's profile

reggiek

2240 posts in 1925 days


#7 posted 03-17-2010 06:36 PM

What happened to taking responsibility for your own actions? Unless there is a severe quality issue with this particular saw?...it is well known that a saw is dangerous and capable of cutting through flesh…...If you buy and use a saw – you are taking your chances like anyone else.

I’m surprised that idiot did not sue god for making him so stupid that he would blame someone else for his own lack of intelligence….This kind of stuff is rediculous….and anyone that serves on a jury and awards these mental midgets money are just as bad as the plantiffs. Too many of them think that a company can afford to pay for the moron’s stupidity so they make rediculous awards like this. That is why there are so few manufacturers making good tools for reasonable money…it is also why most of them locate overseas. All woodworkers end up paying for this with high prices and lack of choices…we really need tort reform.

-- Woodworking.....My small slice of heaven!

View NBeener's profile

NBeener

4806 posts in 1829 days


#8 posted 03-17-2010 06:42 PM

It seems like the primary driving force behind this, and other similar, lawsuits … is the inventor of the SawStop technology.

It seems that he’s been trying to “force” the other manufacturers to pay him for his technology, and implement it across the industry.

It might be appropriate that some of this resentment be pointed toward him.

-- -- Neil

View Dez's profile

Dez

1113 posts in 2732 days


#9 posted 03-17-2010 07:03 PM

Whats next? A SawStop like device for handsaws?

-- Folly ever comes cloaked in opportunity!

View SnowyRiver's profile

SnowyRiver

51451 posts in 2135 days


#10 posted 03-17-2010 07:06 PM

Yes, its a bad thing! Its the government telling us what to buy. If I am concerned about an accident, then I buy the most safe tool out there which most likely now would be SawStop. If I think I can handle safety myself, then I have a choice of what to buy. Maybe we should demand that all saws come with a suit of armor too so we can stop kickback, which I bet occurs more often that a cut.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

View JimmyNate's profile

JimmyNate

124 posts in 2005 days


#11 posted 03-17-2010 07:16 PM

Lawsuits like these are bogus. If the saw was not in compliance with the law or malfunctioned, fine, but the saw did what it was designed to do…cut. Don’t be stupid and sue over saws that cut or coffee that’s hot or some other product doing exactly what it is supposed to do.

But I’m glad I got a Sawstop. I doubt I’d have ever had an accident but shit happens and I like my fingers. Totally worth it. But, ‘worth it’ is a consumer decision, not a legal one.

-- "We are what we repeatedly do; excellence then is not an act but a habit." ---Aristotle

View Abbott's profile

Abbott

2570 posts in 1959 days


#12 posted 03-17-2010 07:17 PM

The fact that there are so many Lumberjocks who have table saw injury stories tells me all I need to know.

I know that I sure as hell don’t need a Sawstop.

-- Ohh mann...pancakes and boobies...I'll bet that's what Heaven is like! ♣ ♣ ♣ ♣

View Brad_Nailor's profile

Brad_Nailor

2531 posts in 2612 days


#13 posted 03-17-2010 07:23 PM

I agree that we should make tools as safe as possible. Does that involve forcing every manufacturer to install Saw Stop like technology NO! As much as I respect and like Saw Stop, this is a choice that we as consumers make. This isn’t even an issue of ambulance chasing lawyers for me..even though it clearly is someone trying to cash in. It’s about us as a society refusing to take the blame for our own actions. From the time we are kids we are programmed to blame other people for our mistakes and shortcomings…”Billy pushed me that’s how the lamp got broken”..or “the teacher is a mean jerk that’s why I got a D”. Then when we become adults it still works for us..”McDonalds coffee was way too hot that’s why I got burned” not that you were trying to drive and drink coffee at the same time. This type of thinking has risen to an absurd level, with people blaming their violent and psychopathic behavior on the fact that they were “abused” as a child…with the term ‘abused” retaining all kinds of loose definitions. All the ridiculous lawsuits that get filed every day by unscrupulous lawyers and people seeing everything as a way to cash out….this country needs tort reform more than it needs health care reform.
This story reminds me of an interview I read a years ago in a woodworking magazine with the inventor of Saw Stop. He was saying he brought his idea to every major table saw manufacturer and they all told him the same thing..they didn’t want to put it on their saws because it would be admitting that a table saw is dangerous. Who doesnt know that a table saw is dangerous? Just standing next to one when it gets flipped on your own human instincts tell you that there is a risk of injury. Common sense…..seems it’s lacking and has been replaced by blame and litigation.

-- http://www.facebook.com/pages/DSO-Designs/297237806954248

View NBeener's profile

NBeener

4806 posts in 1829 days


#14 posted 03-17-2010 07:32 PM

Don’t be stupid and sue over saws that cut or coffee that’s hot or some other product doing exactly what it is supposed to do.

Please be careful when invoking the coffee/McDonald’s case.

The facts are VERY different from what everybody seems to think, and go a LONG way to explaining both the underlying lawsuit AND the award.

-- -- Neil

View Branum's profile

Branum

54 posts in 1822 days


#15 posted 03-17-2010 07:38 PM

I am a huge fan of the SawStop technology. Can I afford a $3000 saw? No! Now has anyone sued because of an old saw that does not have a riving knife? I am fairly sure that the government has been involved in how manufacturers build the safety devices on these saws. So how can someone sue just because they are using a saw that does not have the technology that the government DOES NOT require the other manufacturers to use? This most likely will go to appeals and I would not be surprised to see it over turned, but, they have opened a big ol’ can of worms. Watch the price of power tools start to skyrocket! The market for older refurbished tools is going to blow up.

-- Branum

showing 1 through 15 of 225 replies

Have your say...

You must be signed in to reply.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

GardenTenders.com :: gardening showcase