LumberJocks

Lumber Rack

  • Advertise with us

« back to Focus on the Workspace forum

Forum topic by athomas5009 posted 04-07-2016 11:23 PM 1049 views 1 time favorited 15 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View athomas5009's profile

athomas5009

293 posts in 1084 days


04-07-2016 11:23 PM

I’ve been looking into options for replacing my old shop build wooden lumber racks. They work just fine but are pretty much maxed out and take up too much space. So I’ve thought about going with the heavy duty knapp and Vogt diamond plate series they carry at HD.

According to the site each shelf bracket can hold 500 and each standard 2000. For an 8ft run I was thinking 4 standards and 4 brackets on each row. I’m probably gonna load up 1200 on the system. The numbers say it should hold that and then some. But I figured I’d ask some members for their opinion. Especially ones who use this system.

http://m.homedepot.com/p/questions/Knape-Vogt-0203-20PM-Heavyweight-Diamond-Plate-20-in-x-9-37-in-500-lb-Platinum-Shelf-Bracket/205389073/1

-- Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again, but life goes on.


15 replies so far

View JSilverman's profile

JSilverman

89 posts in 2081 days


#1 posted 04-07-2016 11:31 PM

I have the wall mounted galvanized brackets that Lee Valley sells… they lag bolt into the wall studs and you can buy different depth brackets. They work great, I have them going from floor to ceiling and my rack holds many board feet of lumber.
here is a link to the page at Lee Valley
http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=32145&cat=1,43326

View bob101's profile

bob101

293 posts in 2917 days


#2 posted 04-08-2016 01:50 AM

Check out lee valley lumber storage system. Holds 500 lbs at the tip of each peg ! I have that system and love it.

-- rob, ont,canada

View JBrow's profile

JBrow

819 posts in 387 days


#3 posted 04-08-2016 04:56 AM

athomas5009,

I built my own no-longer-used brackets from wood to support stored lumber. The L bracket had a diagonal brace like the Knapp & Vogt system you mentioned. I found the diagonal brace to be a problem, since the diagonal brace got in the way. Therefore the Lee Valley system with the same load capacity but no diagonal brace would make stacking lumber easier.

I did a quick calculation and found that 4/4 red oak (with a density of 56 pounds/cubic foot) in 6” widths x 8’ long stacked 8 layers (i.e.8”) high at 3 boards per layer would weigh about 500 pounds. Therefore if 4 brackets are used to hold 6” wide 4/4 red oak boards at 3 boards per layer, the lumber could be stacked 32 boards (32”) high. This 3 across x 32” high stack supported by 4 brackets would weigh about 2000 pounds. Since each standard holds 2000 pounds and four standards are needed to support four brackets, there could be up to 4 stacks or 128” high of red oak at 3 boards across.

If my arithmetic is correct, either system (4 standards and 16 brackets) will hold a lot of lumber, about 1200 bf.

View athomas5009's profile

athomas5009

293 posts in 1084 days


#4 posted 04-09-2016 06:58 AM

Mine current rack I is similar to the metal knapp and Vogt design. It has the 45 degree support arms and yes they do take up enough space to bother you. That is one thing I disliked about the KAndV system but I figured it was sturdy and the braces were have the size of those on my current rack.

That is something I’ll keep in mind though But from the responses so far it sound like heavy duty metal brackets should do the job nicely, with or without brackets.

-- Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again, but life goes on.

View JBrow's profile

JBrow

819 posts in 387 days


#5 posted 04-10-2016 01:57 PM

athomas5009,

I am passing along a sale ad from Woodpecker that came in my email. They offer what they call Portamate Storage Rack for $47. It appears to consist of two standards and enough brackets to form 6 storage levels. It is made from 1” tube steel and each level holds 100 pounds. Two sets would then offer a 200 pound capacity. There are no diagonal braces.

The weight capacity is lacking compared to the other two systems already discussed, but then shorter stacks of material mean the material is more accessible. I am not sure how two sets of the Woodpecker of storage rack compares in price to the other systems you are considering. But given all that is included for the price, it may be worth consideration.

http://www.woodpeck.com/portamatestoragerack.html?btatid=3.AIdT.CFygsQ.FsQ0.AaWRdA..AtM-3A.b..l.BtDZ.n...i5nsQg&btac=2as5rol2lj1pvob53s12wtk5e3pe8

View RogerM's profile

RogerM

764 posts in 1866 days


#6 posted 04-10-2016 04:57 PM

I made my own with some 2X4’s and 1/2” electrical conduit. Inexpensive and effective.

-- Roger M, Aiken, SC

View Adam's profile

Adam

37 posts in 1696 days


#7 posted 04-10-2016 11:33 PM

I did basically the same thing as Roger, but used black iron pipe. I used this plan:

View RobS888's profile

RobS888

1988 posts in 1312 days


#8 posted 04-11-2016 05:57 PM

I have the lee valley racks in my garage, about 300board feet of white oak in this picture.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

View Joel_B's profile

Joel_B

294 posts in 848 days


#9 posted 04-11-2016 07:31 PM



athomas5009,

I am passing along a sale ad from Woodpecker that came in my email. They offer what they call Portamate Storage Rack for $47. It appears to consist of two standards and enough brackets to form 6 storage levels. It is made from 1” tube steel and each level holds 100 pounds. Two sets would then offer a 200 pound capacity. There are no diagonal braces.

The weight capacity is lacking compared to the other two systems already discussed, but then shorter stacks of material mean the material is more accessible. I am not sure how two sets of the Woodpecker of storage rack compares in price to the other systems you are considering. But given all that is included for the price, it may be worth consideration.

http://www.woodpeck.com/portamatestoragerack.html?btatid=3.AIdT.CFygsQ.FsQ0.AaWRdA..AtM-3A.b..l.BtDZ.n...i5nsQg&btac=2as5rol2lj1pvob53s12wtk5e3pe8

- JBrow

I bought some of these on sale at Lowe’s I think they were $20 each.
It does the job, but wouldn’t trust it with really heavy loads.
I also have to use shims under the lumber so it is supported at each bar, but that could be a problem with any rack.

-- Joel, Encinitas, CA

View Nezzerscape's profile

Nezzerscape

25 posts in 331 days


#10 posted 04-15-2016 07:54 PM

So… I over engineer everything. My concern with these storage systems is will as standard 2×4 stud support these? At what point does one add a sister stud or go with a 4×4?

View pintodeluxe's profile

pintodeluxe

4859 posts in 2280 days


#11 posted 04-15-2016 08:30 PM

The Lee Valley rack looks pretty good, but I store my lumber vertically. For me, I never grab the first board on top. I sort through the stack to find the best grain match for the project I am working on. It is much easier to flip through the boards in a vertical rack, and you don’t need to remove each board.
http://lumberjocks.com/pintodeluxe/blog/41318

Just a thought. Your needs may vary.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

View RobS888's profile

RobS888

1988 posts in 1312 days


#12 posted 04-15-2016 09:10 PM

I’d have to trim 4 inches off each board to stand them up. I wrote notes on the edge of each one and used chalk to highlight knots and anything I might need to fix.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

View AZWoody's profile

AZWoody

700 posts in 691 days


#13 posted 04-15-2016 09:36 PM

I do vertical racks to stand up all my large slabs and big pieces that I’m going to sort through a lot.

For lumber and small pieces I buy at the store, I use the Portamate racks. They are simple to put together and hang and so far I haven’t had any problems with weight. They’re also on sale throughout the year as different stores do various specials. They were on sale for $30 during the Christams sales at Lowes.

View Tim's profile

Tim

3119 posts in 1429 days


#14 posted 04-15-2016 11:28 PM


So… I over engineer everything. My concern with these storage systems is will as standard 2×4 stud support these? At what point does one add a sister stud or go with a 4×4?

- Nezzerscape

I’m quite sure Roger and Adam’s solution won’t fall down, but I wanted to be able to load mine up to the max and let my kids play around under them without the least worry it would fall, so I laminated two 2×4s together, and ran the black iron pipe through the face, then anchored each 2×4 post to the cement wall with 5 1/2”x5” redhead anchors. I used black iron pipe something like 17” long, I forget, and hanging on the end of one I could just barely get the pipe to bend. At maximum packed load with the densest wood possible, each shelf would be 1000 lbs at 12 feet long. So there’s easily more than a 2x safety factor there considering all the weight is not at the ends and even hard maple is just over half as dense as the densest tropical woods. Way over engineered, yes, but that was the goal, and it was fairly cheap.

View DrDirt's profile

DrDirt

4169 posts in 3209 days


#15 posted 04-20-2016 03:16 PM

I have a portamate rack like jbro listed for my general “accessible” storage.

I have the heavy duty Lee Valley system that Jsilverman listed, both aboce the portamate rack, and over the Garage door.

If I were doing it over, I would go 100% Lee Valley style. But the Portamate rack was my first install… and you know how it goes to get the incentive to take down your lumber rack and replace it with something else… “if it ain’t broke” rules the day. :-)

-- 'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' ~George Carlin

Have your say...

You must be signed in to reply.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com