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Forum topic by JimmyNate posted 03-15-2010 07:24 PM 1307 views 0 times favorited 3 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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03-15-2010 07:24 PM

Topic tags/keywords: joint frame and panel tenon stub tenon biscuit dowel rail stile

When is a stub tenon not enough? Is there such a time?

I’m making a frame and panel bookcase. I’ve dry fit the panel for a side and there is just a little slop in the fit. I can clamp it square without much fuss, but should I strengthen the rail to stile joints?

I’m considering recutting the rails, mortising the stiles and extending the stub tenons into a deeper 1” or 1 1/2” tenon.

I’m considering adding a biscuit once the frame is clamped and flush cutting it.

I’m considering dowelling the joints.

What do ya’ll think?

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#1 posted 03-16-2010 04:48 PM

You don’t describe how long the tenon is now. Assuming 3/8” deep groove for panel and the length of the tenon on the rail ends, that would be enough if the rail is 2” wide or so and you have a decent fit. In my opinion anyway.

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#2 posted 03-16-2010 09:03 PM

You don’t want the joints too tight or you will have a problem gluing them up. a little looseness is good.


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#3 posted 03-17-2010 05:03 PM

Thanks for the feedback Joe.

Michael, they are 3/8” grooves and 3/8” stub tenons right now. The rail and stile width is 2 3/4”. The stiles are 78” long. On the sides, the rails only span about 8 inches, but on the back, there will be 36” rails.

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