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Forum topic by TMcG posted 03-11-2010 09:44 PM 2863 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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TMcG

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03-11-2010 09:44 PM

Was thinking about upgrading to this saw, seems a reasonable mid-tier unit from the reviews and comments etc.. but can’t seem to find it anywhere, anyone have a link or know if it’s still offered by Sears/Craftsman ?

TIA

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NathanAllen

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#1 posted 03-11-2010 11:34 PM

It is currently listed as on sale in the Craftsman Club monthly
It is also listed as a new tool in the 2010-2011 Tool Mag
It is still available in stores
It was shown on the bench&stationary tools sale picture this week
An identical model is being sold by Redmond with the Dayton brand

But, as you’ve already figured out it is not listed for purchase on the website and the personal shoppers don’t seem to be able to locate it.

Sears Item # 00921833000
The only thing that tells us that it isn’t manufactured by one of the regulars OWT, Emerson, etc. I’d say don’t panic since it was only introduced recently, but they did kill off the 22124 in a hurry.

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TMcG

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#2 posted 03-12-2010 12:38 AM

Right, I first saw it, so to speak, in the Craftsman Club monthly but then couldn’t seem to find it anywhere else.

So just hold tight and it’ll re-appear you think ?

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fr8train

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#3 posted 04-12-2010 05:45 AM

It is back up and Craftsman listened to the customers….you can now download assembly instructions on the page where it is listed. http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00921833000P

I own this saw and am EXTREMELY happy with it…. just last night, I made a dial indicator jig to align everything…. got it real close to zeroes all the way around…. some of the folks complained that there saw was not lining up correctly…. but I (and a majority) had no problems.

I added the Benchdog table to it…. the middle screw for the table was a pain in the arse to get in there (the motor cover is in the way), but I got it in….. I can take a picture for anyone interested.

Bottom line: I wouldn’t hesitate to buy this saw again, particularly since I paid only 4 and change for it!

Good luck.
FR8

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TMcG

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#4 posted 04-13-2010 03:27 AM

Thanks for the update, I had actually upgraded to a Ridgid (being completey impatient), which I’m also really happy with.

How do you find the router table, is that working for you ?

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fr8train

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#5 posted 04-13-2010 08:06 AM

Hope you are enjoying the Ridgid…. what model?

The Bench Dog is a real upgrade for me. I have been working with a Ryobi for the last 7 years. I also upgraded my router to a 2 3/4HP Porter Cable…. I mounted the fixed base and have the plunge base free. So all in all, I am stepping in High Cotton here. For those that are already used to the nice equipment, they might not be as excited as me….

The Bench Dog fence is real solid and the dust collection system actually works (strangely enough)! It is easily adjustable and removable. I also put the pro-plate in that was made for the Porter-Cable…. I now can raise the bit from above the table.

A lot of folks state that they don’t like having the router table as part of the table saw, but I can’t really see the point. I don’t see it getting in the way very much, and I like having everything right there, particularly since the 21833 has caster wheels…. I can zip the entire package to the middle of the floor in quick order and zip it right back when I am not using it.

I highly recommend Johnson’s paste wax to protect it all…. once you take that factory grease off of the tables, it doesn’t take long for small rust spots to start showing up.

Enjoy your new saw. I hope you are as excited about it as I am of mine.

FR8

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TMcG

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#6 posted 04-13-2010 11:08 PM

TS3650 is the one I got, got a good deal on a 2nd hand one.

I certainly am (excited), it has completely changed my approach and results.

Thanks for the info on the Bench Dog.

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fr8train

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#7 posted 04-27-2010 03:42 AM

I received some interest regarding how the Bench Dog Table Ext 40-103 works with the Craftsman 21833 table saw. I took some pictures to allow all of you to see it connected.

http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad133/fr8trainer/Craftsman%2021833%20w%20Bench%20Dog%20Table%20Ext/DSC02462.jpg

http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad133/fr8trainer/Craftsman%2021833%20w%20Bench%20Dog%20Table%20Ext/DSC02457.jpg

Bottom line is this:

1) There are no clearance issues with the motor housing interfering with the router. I have a Porter Cable 895 2 1/4 HP hooked up and as you can see, there is plenty of room.
http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad133/fr8trainer/Craftsman%2021833%20w%20Bench%20Dog%20Table%20Ext/DSC02459.jpg

2) The middle bolt (as seen in picture) is a pain in the arse to tighten, because the motor housing unit is in the way…. I have a crescent wrench that fit in there so I could tighten it, but it took some patience. A flex wrench will most likely work as well.
http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad133/fr8trainer/Craftsman%2021833%20w%20Bench%20Dog%20Table%20Ext/DSC02460.jpg

3) The table didn’t quite lay flush with my table saw. I am not sure if other 21833’s will be different, but I raised the table as high as it would go before tightening the bolts….. it is possible that it may go a little higher, because I got only girls in the house…. maybe I can make a little more flush, but this is a minor deal to me.

http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad133/fr8trainer/Craftsman%2021833%20w%20Bench%20Dog%20Table%20Ext/DSC02461.jpg

Bottom line…. this was money well spent on both accounts (table saw and extension). I love the the above table adjustment that I have with the extension, and I love the portability of it all.

One other thing that others may be interested in….. the rebate for the digital gauge is quite nice…. Craftsman sent it out with easy directions on how to hook it up to this saw….. if you need help regarding this, I may be able to assist.

Hope this helps!

FR8

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Lifesaver2000

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#8 posted 04-27-2010 05:06 AM

Thanks for the pics and info. I guess I should have requested the info before I ordered mine. I really could use the wider and flatter area to the left of the blade for cross cuts so if I can’t get it level it won’t be worth nearly as much to me.

I cant see from the pic, how much difference is there between the table and extension? Does it look like the holes could be drilled out to allow it to raise up flush?

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fr8train

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#9 posted 04-27-2010 05:31 AM

Right now, I have about 1/32” difference.

I am absolutely sure you can get it more flush. If you have the equipment worthy of drilling bigger holes in the cast-iron, that would be one option.

Another option would be to carefully shave the far end of the bolts to get more play…. but you need to be careful not to seriously weaken the bolts if you do this.

Having said all of that, I am not totally convinced that I pulled this table up as far as it can go… again, I have a 15 y.o daughter that helped me put this on….

FR8

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