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Forum topic by Nic posted 03-30-2016 01:30 AM 1216 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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03-30-2016 01:30 AM

Topic tags/keywords: oak burl milling

Alright, I found a nice tree on my family land and I sorta want to know whether or not it’s worth harvesting. It’s not very deep in the land so it’s not a problem with logistics, but more of worth. https://www.flickr.com/gp/141477179@N08/0579j2
https://www.flickr.com/gp/141477179@N08/560u5s
https://www.flickr.com/gp/141477179@N08/T1r126
I think it’s a mostly oak forest, so it would make sense if it was some type of burled oak, but I have little to no idea on standing trees. Any help would be appreciated.

-- Third time's the charm, right?


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#1 posted 03-30-2016 01:43 AM

The leaves, if any are still attached, would be a dead giveaway… I saw a couple up higher, but couldn’t make them out. If you could get one down that was still clinging by the stem, I’m sure we’d recognize it.
The bark looks familiar, but it’s just not clicking tonight…

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#2 posted 03-30-2016 01:47 AM

Thanks for the effort Underdog. I couldn’t get any higher pics, the sky overexposed and you couldn’t see the tree. I tried, but it didn’t work. The full tree is like this, all the way to the top, and I’m pretty sure it is burled but I just don’t know.

-- Third time's the charm, right?

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#3 posted 03-30-2016 01:47 AM

Also most of the limbs were dead or coming there so I need to take it soon if I want to

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#4 posted 03-30-2016 12:21 PM

The bark kind of looks like black oak, a red oak in lumber terms. I know that the dutch elm disease causes cankers in oak without killing them, but all the ones I’ve ever seen have been isolated to a single large canker/burl. The tree doesn’t look overly huge so I’d say fell it, take a chunk, and cut on a band saw and see what you got.

-- --Zach

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#5 posted 03-30-2016 05:42 PM

Yeah it isn’t too large, might be somewhere around 20” diameter. Would it be the cankers of the Dutch Elm or do you think it’s a weirdly burled tree?

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#6 posted 03-30-2016 06:25 PM

Well, at least one leaf at the bottom of the tree is red oak. Not for sure since it could have come from elsewhere, but I’m guessing it is also an oak.

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#7 posted 03-30-2016 06:34 PM

I believe it’s a mostly red oak forest so I wouldn’t be surprised.

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#8 posted 03-30-2016 09:08 PM

If logistics aren’t a problem and the tree is on its way out anyway, go for it. Get it sliced up and show pictures, I bet it has spectacular grain.

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#9 posted 03-31-2016 12:49 AM

^ Yes!

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#10 posted 03-31-2016 02:49 AM

I actually am going to have a job shadow day with my local lumber mill in a week or two. I think I will be able to get it out and ask them on it. It’s mostly a matter of getting my father out there, he’s the one with chainsaw experience and a large truck and trailer lol. I suppose it doesn’t exactly matter to me what it is, more that I can use it to mine and others benefits. I do hope it turns out nicely, I’m quite excited to get a sample off of our family land to help my parents justify keeping it in the near future as we lose family to old age and such.

-- Third time's the charm, right?

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#11 posted 04-28-2016 06:28 PM

Update: I had my job shadow, and the owner immediately recognized it as a burr oak. He said it was one of the most extremely burled examples he’s ever seen and that it would be a good idea to get sawn, but it would have to set for a while.

-- Third time's the charm, right?

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#12 posted 04-28-2016 06:40 PM

I can’t wait to see it cut up! That is one crazy looking burled tree!! Awesome

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#13 posted 04-28-2016 06:41 PM

How would he saw it? Flat sawn in widths to make veneers? I’m’ curious how you’ll do it.

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#14 posted 04-28-2016 06:45 PM

I was considering slabs for the most flexibility, veneer isn’t my thing. I was thinking mostly 5/4, 6/4, and 8/4 slabs. One 12/4 out of the bottom 12” section I plan on maybe. I was thinking even a 16/4 out of the smaller top part, because that’s just hard to find. Slabs were my initial plan but I’m open to other options. Also, they have a small circle mill at the lumber dealer I go to so I may very well have to find someone with a band mill. Anyone have any better ideas?

-- Third time's the charm, right?

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#15 posted 04-28-2016 06:54 PM

Really, the log will tell the sawyer the best way to do it. Tell him what ideally you would like and let him use his best judgement.
I would love to see that as it’s being done. I haven’t been lucky enough to come across any burls that I could mill yet. Only ones I’ve seen have been on the tree and I didn’t want to risk killing the tree to get it.

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