|Forum topic by Willowman||posted 03-29-2016 02:21 AM||1748 views||1 time favorited||16 replies|
03-29-2016 02:21 AM
As a new saw owner, I recently decided to stop lurking here on lumberjocks and make my presence known. The majority of this posting was written a couple of days ago as a response to DarkLightning’s review of the Sawstop Jobsite saw (JSS), but he suggested that I start a new thread on this particular saw since information and discussion online is fairly limited. Most of what I was able to find while doing research is focussed on comparing the JSS to the rest of the portable saws out there and whether the Sawstop technology is worth the high price. Lets assume for this discussion, that we don’t need to rehash that here since I have already purchased the saw.
I also have read Kalison’s review of the stock set up of this saw elsewhere on Lumberjocks. He speaks highly of everything except the Miter slots and gauge.
What i would love to see here is postings of actual experiences with the Sawstop JSS and ways in which people have used aftermarket attachments to make it more useful and precise for finer woodworking than framing up houses and general contractor work. My initial posting below goes into my current specific need to repair or upgrade the fence system.
Here is that post (slightly edited) and i will follow up with the relevant reply copied from elsewhere on Lumberjocs in order to get this thread started. – Dave
I used to have access to friends $9000+ sliding saws and big Powermatics, but I moved. Now my little garage shop in the making (and my bank account) won’t accommodate those wonderful and accurate saws. Most of my work is with hand tools and willow branches (see my website) but I want to start expanding what I can do which means more tools. I was looking at a Delta Hybrid for around $650 that had a few good write ups, but when a Sawstop JSS showed up on CL for the same price, I went for it. Mobility was not my priority in buying this saw. I just decided to sacrifice the benefits of a hybrid or cabinet saw in order to get the safety features of the Sawstop.
The people at Sawstop are being very helpful figuring out the parts needed for the repair, and it looks like the parts will run me $150-$200 to bring it back to new condition. As long as I have to replace the rails and table extension though, I thought I would also look into alternative fence systems that might work on this saw to improve accuracy and ease of use. As I said, mobility was not my priority in buying this saw. I just decided to sacrifice the benefits of a hybrid or cabinet saw in order to get the safety features of the Sawstop. I know I can easily resell this saw if I outgrow it’s capabilities.
What is everyone’s experience with the stock fence? Maybe a good sled and upgraded Miter Gauge would be enough to improve accuracy? My budget is not unlimited, or I think I would buy the smaller Incra Fence to play with, assuming it bolts on ok. HAs anyone done this? IT looks like the JSS’s table extension is supported by the rails, so without having the Incra rails in my hand, I cannot tell if it would all bolt up ok. The Incra does seem to be the only aftermarket system that uses slotted rails so the hardware that attaches to the saw can be lined up with the original threaded holes in the saw table, which saves any drilling of the new fence rails or the saw itself. Given that the JSS is mostly plastic and thin aluminum with reinforced threaded blocks at the mounting spots, I would not want to try to drill new holes in the saw anyway. It does look like the extended rails wont mess with folding the saw up for storage that much, since when the cart folds, the left side of the saw goes to the ground and the rails would point straight up in the air. Not great for loading into a pickup truck, but that is not me end use.
The options I am currently considering are:
Any insights gained in owning this saw would be appreciated. I can’t wait to bolt something on and make sawdust.
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I had an Incra Miter 1000 HD that I bought many years ago. It works great on this saw.
I made a “throat deepener” out of aluminum that I have yet to post. That will be in a different thread. I want to get a picture of it, but haven’t done that. It lays in the slots and I have a larger sled that has HDPE rails routed in the bottom that ride on the aluminum bars that fit in the slots. It is dead-on.
The stock fence is, so far, dead parallel to the rails and the blade. I have no problem making cuts parallel when using it. Of course, with wear, that may be an issue, but I expect that to be many years from now.
As far as communication, here is fine. I don’t see a lot of people posting about the JSS, so having the information available “in the open” is better, I think. Maybe a new thread that talks about what we’ve done to make the saw do things outside what it was meant to do?
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Good idea about the new thread. I will get that going soon. It will be a good way to get started here at LJ and a good way to consolidate info about this cool saw.
I would love to see the Throat deepener and sled set up. I assume that is to make up for the lack of table in front of the blade?
As for the incra, It sounds like you use it AND the stock fence. How do you switch back and forth without swapping the rails?
I really cant decide if I should stop trying to reinvent the wheel like I usually do, and just buy the Sawstop replacement parts. Maybe they designed it really well to tight tolerances. Tight enough for me anyway. That thin aluminum tube fence just doesnt “feel” as solid as any of the other aftermarket ones I have used. To be fair though, I have not been able to make a single cut on the Sawstop without making the repairs first.