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Forum topic by cFurnitureGuy posted 03-08-2010 01:18 AM 19644 views 3 times favorited 20 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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cFurnitureGuy

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03-08-2010 01:18 AM

Topic tags/keywords: planer dw735 dust collection cheap filter dewalt seperator collector shop jig

I took advantage of the new low price on the DW735 planer at Lowes after selling my old old Makita planer! I have read the reviews and it seemed to be the best portable planer for me! Got it home and set it up and ran a couple test pieces through it… i have read in the reviews that this thing THROWS CHIPS and man does it ever!! i only ran a few passes and it completly covered my shop with dust and chips!

So…. i took and old cheap work table that i had in the shop and closed it in with some plywood… added a flexible hose and some 3 inch PVC pipe and a toilet flange to blow the chips inside the cart. I made a door with some scraps i had laying around and added a furnace filter…. alittle spray foam to fill in the cracks and weather strip to seal the door!
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Now heres the part i would classify as “I should have known better but ihad to try it This setup worked great until the filter got clogged up and it started blowing the weather striping out and made a shower of dust and chips! i know i need to get the air out of the cabinet and use the cart as a seperator… but how should i go about it?cheap!
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I dont have the space or electrical power to run a dust collector and my tools at the same time! i have a 2.5hp shop vac i could add to the system to suck the air out but not sure if that will work? i know the manual says no to Shop Vacs!!! But it could help keep the seals from blowing out couldnt it? how about an outlet that leads to a trash can and a muslin filter tied top with a drawstring? in that case i would put a solid door on the cabinet and remove the furnace filter…. that setup wouldnt “suck”air out but it would allow air to escape without blowing seals and clogging the filter… wouldnt it?

please help me come up with a cheap, compact, design! thanks

-- Justin, Savannah,Ga


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tooldad

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#1 posted 03-08-2010 01:27 AM

Try a cyclone separator on a trash can then run it to your cabinet. Should only be air in the cabinet. Our DC at school is too small to handle all the planer traffic. We used to empty it hourly or even every half hour. Now I have the kids check it at lunch, rarely needs to be dumped so it waits till end of day. Most of time students tell me it really didn’t need to be, but they dump it anyway to start fresh. Just have an extra Trash can around.

I have the same planer with a 2hp DC. That planer will air up the bags in the DC and it has to travel about 16 feet of 6 inch pipe before it gets there. If I am only planing a board or two, I often dont’ even switch the DC on. I know the power of that planer!

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cFurnitureGuy

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#2 posted 03-08-2010 01:33 AM

so your saying reverse the system…. do you think the air would still blow the seals out of the cabinet? but i guess the filter wouldnt clog up as fast!

-- Justin, Savannah,Ga

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John Ormsby

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#3 posted 03-08-2010 01:43 AM

Your planer knives will get hot and start getting dull and rough if the chips are not cleared out while running. The shavings will recycle on the drum and start building up inside the planer. This is not good. I also recommend a cyclone if you can afford one. 3 HP minimum but 5 HP recommended for good fine particle collection.

-- Oldworld, Fair Oaks, Ca

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cFurnitureGuy

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#4 posted 03-08-2010 01:50 AM

there is no build up… it ejects the chips in the cabinet really well! there are no chips in the hose or tube when i ran the tests… the problem is the chips blowing out the cabinet and clogs the filter in about 2 mins!

-- Justin, Savannah,Ga

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tooldad

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#5 posted 03-08-2010 01:52 AM

I’ve got an extra separator lid in Arnold. Bought one at the wood show last year, then cleaned out an old store room and found one. Come this way and I’ll let it go for $20. Worth a try. If it doesn’t work, you can even bring it back and I’ll return the $20.

Another thing you could do with the separator if it doesn’t work with the filter cabinet is to just let it blow outside via a 10ft hose if your shop is in a garage.

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cFurnitureGuy

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#6 posted 03-08-2010 01:56 AM

Thanks!!i may take you up on that offer Tooldad!
What size is your separator? is it the large one or the smaller one for the 5 gallon bucket?

-- Justin, Savannah,Ga

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#7 posted 03-08-2010 02:04 AM

Tie a pillow case to the toilet flange inside the box and when the pillow case is clogged take it out and empty it, give it a good shake ( easier then cleaning the furnace filter ) should last longer than two minutes and it’s cheap

-- Simple advice is the best advice

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tooldad

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#8 posted 03-08-2010 02:07 AM

It is the larger one.

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#9 posted 03-08-2010 02:14 AM

PM sent Tooldad!

-- Justin, Savannah,Ga

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#10 posted 03-08-2010 02:50 AM

I’ve heard that due to the amount of air DW735 expels, a cyclone lid on a garbage can will create a lot of positive pressure inside the garbage can and pop the cyclone lid off. Haven’t tried it myself however.

Why not add a board a few inches away from your filter, a leave only some room for air to flow past that board near to top of the cabinet? And at where the hose enter the cab, add an elbow to direct the air flow downwards. Kind of like a cyclone, only less effective. But planer chips are largest compare to other sawdust, so they are easy to fall out of the airstream.

-- Ed

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#11 posted 03-08-2010 05:02 AM

I had one of those before and never had an issue using a shop-vac. Just a pain to keep the filter clean, until I got the Oneida mini-cyclone. It’s dry here and I would often get static shocked pretty good though.

-- Troy Bouffard || Master Sergeant, US Army (Retired) || http://www.birchhillwoodcrafts.com

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#12 posted 03-08-2010 05:37 AM

This is an easier method of disposing of the chips:

http://lumberjocks.com/topics/15116

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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#13 posted 03-08-2010 05:37 AM

This is an easier method of disposing of the chips:

http://lumberjocks.com/topics/15116

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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cFurnitureGuy

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#14 posted 03-08-2010 10:01 PM

thanks everyone for the input…. i think i may steal the method Lew posted! and just use the cabinet as storage, because i need storage bad!!
if that fails for me i will try the separator lid on trash can and back into the cabinet!

-- Justin, Savannah,Ga

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#15 posted 03-13-2010 03:09 AM

Justin
You could use Lew’s idea , if you didn’t want to go the cloth cover route get yourself a metal trash can and just cut a hold in the lid to put the flange in it . The blower on that 735 is strong enough to inflate the cloth dust bag on my DC with out the DC running .

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