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Forum topic by DWestwind posted 03-07-2010 07:59 PM 2277 views 0 times favorited 17 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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DWestwind

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03-07-2010 07:59 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question trick oak lathe turning finishing food safe

Hello all.
I’ve made a few bowls for my 1yo daughter in the last year (out of oak). I’ve put a beeswax finish on it and it looks great…... for a while… using it often requires constant cleaning, but the beeswax finish washes off eventually. Is there a food safe / baby safe finish out there that doesn’t come off?

-- Westwind


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Padre

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#1 posted 03-07-2010 08:14 PM

To be honest, almost any finish is food safe once it’s dried and the smell has gone away.

To be safe: Saladbowl finish works well and is food safe within 72 hours.

Plain old shellac is food safe. It better be since that’s what they use to cover a lot of food stuffs!

-- Chip -----------http://www.penmanchip.com-----------------Micah 6:8

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araldite

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#2 posted 03-07-2010 08:47 PM

I would also go with shellac. It is edible. A 1/2 lb cut will penetrate the wood and, although it will not stand up to repeated washings, it will last longer and protect the wood better than mineral oil or beeswax.

Although other types of finishes may be inert when completely dried, it’s your decision whether you want to go with something that is not FDA approved. I know my wife wouldn’t go with it when my kids were young.

-- Failure is the road to success if you learn to learn from your mistakes - Vince, Greenville, SC

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Mary Anne

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#3 posted 03-07-2010 08:55 PM

I like shellac. I used it on some salad bowls that get pretty frequent use at my house. I hand wash (of course) and dry them right away. They still look good after about a year of use.

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hObOmOnk

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#4 posted 03-07-2010 09:01 PM

”almost any finish is food safe once it’s dried and the smell has gone away.”

No.
Only wood finish products approved by the FDA are food safe.

”I would also go with shellac. It is edible.”

No.
Only food grade shellac is edible.

-- 温故知新

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teenagewoodworker

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#5 posted 03-07-2010 09:13 PM

clear finishes are food safe once cured. and only once cured. that’s because if you can manage to get the finish off of the wood it will not dissolve in your body. it will just come out the other side.

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thiel

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#6 posted 03-07-2010 09:24 PM

...um… children’s plastic toys are not FDA approved, but they get chewed on all the time :-) I agree that most (some would say all, but I’ll stick with most) finishes are inert when cured….

On the other hand, shellac is made from bug poop. And I know my kids have eaten plenty of bugs—poop included—and somehow they survive!

-- Laziness minus Apathy equals Efficiency

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lew

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#7 posted 03-07-2010 09:30 PM

Pure mineral oil. If the kids do eat the bowl, the mineral oil will act as a laxative.

Seriously, I use pure mineral oil on all my kitchen/food contact projects.

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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Padre

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#8 posted 03-07-2010 09:32 PM

Almost ANY finish, whether or not it is approved by the FDA is food safe.

Raw shellace taken right from the BUGS is not safe, but almost ALL processed shellac (as found in most civilized countries) is safe.

Kinda like teflon Randy, I sure as heck wouldn’t want make a sandwich out of it, but I’m sure both you and I have eaten a lot of it.

-- Chip -----------http://www.penmanchip.com-----------------Micah 6:8

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hObOmOnk

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#9 posted 03-07-2010 10:15 PM

Hey guys:

My main career was as a Clinical Chemist – a combo chemistry and medical trained discipline.
Also, I have worked as a consultant to the wood finishing industry.

I can guarantee that:

  • Ingested cured finishes will be digested.
  • It is illegal for any American made finishing product to be labeled as food safe unless it is.

Of course I didn’t have any teenage woodworkers as professors in med school, so maybe I got it wrongl. <grin>

-- 温故知新

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Padre

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#10 posted 03-07-2010 11:01 PM

Ok then! I definitely, positively, unequivocally say:

WHAT RANDY SAID! <huge><grin>

-- Chip -----------http://www.penmanchip.com-----------------Micah 6:8

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hObOmOnk

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#11 posted 03-08-2010 12:19 AM

Hey Padre:

Since some water is drinkable and goat pee is mostly water, then… <wink>

-- 温故知新

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Roper

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#12 posted 03-08-2010 12:26 AM

shellac is not bug poop, it is from the shell of the beetle.

-- Roper - Master of sawdust- www.roperwoodturning.com

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Tony Z

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#13 posted 03-08-2010 12:47 AM

I use General Finishes: Salad Bowl Finish. I think the name says it all.

-- Tony, Ohio

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#14 posted 03-08-2010 02:20 AM

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hObOmOnk

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#15 posted 03-08-2010 03:06 AM

Gerry:

That article is NOT completely true.

-- 温故知新

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