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03-14-2016 12:09 PM

Topic tags/keywords: band saw

I do not currently own a band saw. I’ve been thinking of buying a Laguna 14/12 band saw. The cost of one of these is approx. $1100. The cost of a Grizzly is $555 + $79 = $634. This is almost half as much. Can anyone explain to me why one would spend almost twice as much for a band saw? That being said I DID spend $400 on a used Festool CT-26E and I love it. My family made fun of me for spending $400 on “vacuum cleaner”. There is also Jet, Powermatic, Delta and Rikon to consider. They are all more expensive than the Grizzly. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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#1 posted 03-14-2016 12:12 PM

Two completely different saws. A better comparison, IMO, would be the Laguna 14/12 and the Grizzly G0778 or G0457. I would also take a HARD look at the G0513X2, as well as the Rikon 10-325.

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Fred Hargis

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#2 posted 03-14-2016 01:20 PM

I agree, don’t compare the cast iron C-frame saws to those with steel frames. The comparison will be more realistic.

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#3 posted 03-15-2016 11:43 AM

Which band saws are cast iron and which are steel frame? Is one type better than the other? Also I see some saws have aluminum wheels and others have cast iron. Thoughts on one vs. the other?

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#4 posted 03-15-2016 11:56 AM

I’d take cast iron wheels over aluminum wheels any day. Cast iron stops slower, but helps the blade plough through the cut with the extra weight in motion. Aluminum slows faster, but can’t say there is another benefit.

As far as cast iron frame vs. steel frame, my Grizzly G0513X2BF is a steel framed saw, and to say it would ever deviate is just silly.
There are, however, lighter built, thinner gauge steel frame saws.
Cast iron, obviously, is stable.
You just have to look. Cast iron has that rounded poured look, and steel frame is almost always boxy.

Good examples of cast iron is the Powermatic 14”, which is a great saw, but a bit overpriced for a 14”. You can get the Powermatic now from CPO Powermatic for $1199 and it comes with free shipping and a free riser block kit. That would make it a 105” blade with the riser attached, and give you 12” resaw capability.

Good examples of the steel frame is the Grizzly G0513 series, which is a proven work horse and you get a lot of saw for the money. That unit starts as a 12” resaw unit, and the throat varies about an inch or two as you get more expensive. (I think there are eight different G0513 models.)

Others will love other brands. Laguna seems have a love/hate relationship on this site, as does Powermatic. Grizzly, most people think it is at least a decent brand saw, with a lot of overall fans.

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#5 posted 03-15-2016 01:48 PM

I own the Rikon 10-325. It is a great saw, and i have nothing bad to say about that. With that out of the way, I will tell you, that I was ABOUT to buy the G0513X2, when this saw popped up on CL, basically new, for a very good deal. I jumped on the deal, and have no regrets on the saw, or the money I saved over the G0513. Had I not gotten a used saw, I would have ended up with the Grizzly over the Rikon.

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#6 posted 03-15-2016 02:55 PM

My first response to your question db, would be what plans do you have for the saw? Second, if you don’t currently own a band saw, why stretch your budget to the max on a saw you’ve never used? Its kind of a golden rule to buy tools as need them, & buy the best you can afford at the time. Cast iron is definitely the better choice, if possible. The heavier the tool, the more stable it’ll be.

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Fred Hargis

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#7 posted 03-15-2016 03:12 PM

The grizzly saw you priced is the cast iron frame, and is typical (they do come in larger sizes) of the cast iron models. The steel frame saws will look more squared, and generally have a taller resaw out of the box. If you could see these in person you would see the difference right away. I think they both have their places. The 14” cast iron saws are the mainstay bandsaws of a huge number of shops. But the steel frame models (at least the better ones) don’t have anything to be ashamed of. I started with a Delta 14” (cast iron) and recently bought a (used) Minimax MM16…...if i had room I’d keep both, but if I have to choose just one it would be the steel frame MM16.

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#8 posted 03-16-2016 11:51 AM

Wow!! This is a lot of information!! Thank you. Am I correct in saying the Grizzly G555 series are cast iron saws?

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Fred Hargis

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#9 posted 03-16-2016 11:56 AM

Yes.

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#10 posted 03-16-2016 11:57 AM



Cast iron is definitely the better choice, if possible. The heavier the tool, the more stable it ll be.

- sawdust703


I would tend to agree with this statement in almost every other aspect, except for bandsaw frames.

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#11 posted 03-16-2016 02:28 PM

Steel (squares) frames are typically designed to be stiffer than the cast iron frames. If you intend to do a lot of resawing where a wide blade is advantageous, a stiffer frame will allow you to properly tension that wider blade.

I have a MiniMax 16” and do a fair amount of resawing with a 1-1/4” blade. Other 16” saws are not able to tension up this high. If I didn’t need a wide blade, the advantage (and cost) of the stiffer frame mostly goes away. If this is your case, you might be better off spending the extra money on features like user-friendly blade guides and other features that make the saw more pleasant to use and quickly/easily change blades.

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#12 posted 03-17-2016 12:14 PM

I am leaning toward a Grizzly G0555 series saw unless a good deal on a used (whatever) comes along. Thanks.

-- measure 3 times, cut once

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