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hypnos

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03-01-2010 04:47 PM

Topic tags/keywords: wood identification milling rough lumber

I got this wood from my wife’s step-mom, she was having her neighbor store it in his garage otherwise I would have known about it sooner. It came some years ago from another neighbor she was friends with, a woodworker who passed away. She doesn’t know what kind it is, and my only guess is some sort of red maple maybe? It seems like that’s quite a lot of heartwood for maple though, but most of it is pretty hard and heavy and feels really tight grained when planed like it…

There’s 11 or more boards, most of them at least 10’ long and all are an inch to 1 1/8” thick

I brought it home in my wife’s not-minivan (Mazda5 – seats 4 kids in the back and hauls lumber: @28mpg)

It’s definitely all from the same tree

I ran one of the few shorter pieces through my planer a few times and squared 2 edges – this isn’t the prettiest piece but it gives you an idea. The planer wasn’t happy about taking a board that was hard and not face jointed, it definitely got bogged down near that knot.



Here’s a link http://picasaweb.google.com/hypnos/Wood?? to the whole album with a few more pictures and the ability to zoom in to view it closer

I’m looking for advice milling rough lumber like this, advice on cleaning it up and getting the most out of it. Only a few ends of the boards are over 13 inches wide, I plan on building an 8’ long planer sled that should allow me to get one face flat. I’d like to avoid ripping these boards down too much, esp. not knowing what all I’m going to do with them yet.

Thanks for any advice or help identifying!

-- David P., Kansas City


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SKFrog16

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#1 posted 03-01-2010 05:02 PM

Any aroma to the wood? Kinda looks like walnut.

-- Methods are many,Principles are few.Methods change often,Principles never do.

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#2 posted 03-01-2010 05:09 PM

you could take it to a shop with a wide belt sander ,
for some $ they can clean it up for you ,
to any grit you like .

no ripout ,
no abuse to your planer .

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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HenryH

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#3 posted 03-01-2010 05:16 PM

Looks like walnut. Nice score.

-- HenryH - PA

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hypnos

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#4 posted 03-01-2010 05:32 PM

Nothing unusual with the aroma, but I haven’t worked with too many types of wood. Looking at the hobbithouse I do see some similarities with the English or European walnut, I never would have guessed that because I’ve never seen walnut with so much white and red coloring, could be though.
David – I do vaguely know someone who works at some sort of cabinet shop, I could start there I guess. That would take a lot of the work out of it and not add too much to the cost of free…
How much is a reasonable charge for belt/drum sanding service on this amount of wood?

-- David P., Kansas City

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Andrew

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#5 posted 03-01-2010 05:45 PM

I think it looks like cherry, not dark enough for walnut. Beatiful grain.

-- Even a broken clock is right twice a day, unless, it moves at half speed like ....-As the Saw Turns

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hypnos

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#6 posted 03-01-2010 06:07 PM

Cherry seems like a possibility, the bark could be black cherry or walnut. I found out that most walnut sold is steamed to bring out the darker colors, I guess that’s what I’m used to seeing at the stores. I’m reading up on how to conceal sapwood whatever it is, FWW has a nice article on it, but hopefully I can use some of the sapwood more naturally and do some book-matching.

-- David P., Kansas City

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lumberdustjohn

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#7 posted 03-01-2010 06:29 PM

$60 per hour to have wood sanded in my area.
Looks like Cherry to me.

-- Safety first because someone needs you.

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Cher

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#8 posted 03-01-2010 06:40 PM

Hypnos, that is a nice find. David has given good advice as he always does. Considering you were given all that wood it is worth it to pay to have it cleaned up.

-- When you know better you do better.

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#9 posted 03-01-2010 07:00 PM

Birch or Cherry…but probably Birch

-- Don, Pittsburgh

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#10 posted 03-01-2010 07:23 PM

I would lean to Black Birch but not rule out Cherry. Cherry has a light colored sapwood.

Henry

-- alaskan79, Michigan

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#11 posted 03-01-2010 08:01 PM

Based on pictures 3, 4, 6 and 7 I’m thinking cherry. Pictures 1 and 2 don’t tell me much and picture 5 looks like walnut. Perhaps a relevant question is what kind of wood is common in your area.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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hypnos

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#12 posted 03-01-2010 08:27 PM

The second picture shows some bark and I think that rules out birch… In the third picture the shorter board in the middle is the same one as all the pictures below that, you can see how much lighter the sapwood looks after going through the planer – maybe there was some exposure to sunlight darkening it over the years which makes cherry more likely…
Both black cherry and walnut are common in Missouri.
If I find a shop to sand it – does it matter belt sander vs drum? I forget – will they both parallel the two sides or does it still have to get ran through a wide jointer?

Thanks for all the help everybody!

-- David P., Kansas City

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#13 posted 03-01-2010 08:55 PM

the sanding is just like a planer ,
just not chipping it .
parallel is the result.

realy the best way ,
and you can see all the grain ,
not just the aged or rough stuff .

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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Earlb

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#14 posted 03-01-2010 09:01 PM

there is a jig back a ways in the projects that would probably help. it used pipe and plywood to build a router sled that rides on angle iron to flatten slabs.turns your router into a surface planer sortof.

-- It is all in your perspective.

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KayBee

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#15 posted 03-01-2010 09:58 PM

If you expose some new wood and put in the sun a few days that might tell you something. Cherry gets darker in sunlight. Just need some bright sunshine now : )

-- Karen - a little bit of stupid goes a long way

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