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Forum topic by Woodchuck2010 posted 03-11-2016 04:17 AM 573 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Woodchuck2010

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03-11-2016 04:17 AM

I think I’ve maxed out the storage room on my ceiling foldaway storage board. Time to come up with a more capable one. I’ve got 12 accessories on this one. It folds down from the ceiling to the left of my table saw. It has really worked out good. It contains a featherboard, 2 blades, blade wrench, 2 aux fence clamps, push stick, 2 table inserts, 1” fence block, riving knife, and a horsehair bench brush. I made a couple of wooden washers to fit between the saw blades so the teeth won’t hit each other. it also is easier to grab a blade. Ugh! It cut off the right side of the picture. Oh well. When I’m done using it, it just folds up to the joists and latches shut. Some of you have already seen this, but I wanted to show it with all the stuff I could fit on it. haha

-- Chuck, Michigan,


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#1 posted 03-11-2016 05:03 AM

Again it makes no sense to keep a push stick/block anywhere except at the saw … Storage over safety, great decision.

M

-- Madmark - Madmark2150@yahoo.com Wiretreefarm.com

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Woodchuck2010

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#2 posted 03-11-2016 05:13 AM



Again it makes no sense to keep a push stick/block anywhere except at the saw … Storage over safety, great decision.

M

- MadMark


Thanks Markie! The whole board is by the saw if needed. As I told you before, I usually use the GRR-Rippers. If I know I’m going to use the stick, I grab it. Simple huh Mark?

-- Chuck, Michigan,

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#3 posted 03-11-2016 05:23 AM

No. Statistics show that if safety gear is not at hand, accidents increase. You should have all your different push blocks sticks etc., need to be at the saw, not stowed away in the overhead bin. The only way safety tool storage makes sense is if you’re not going to use the saw, just show it off in all its scratch free glory. No one seeing your saw should have to search for any hand safety tool.

Bah!

M

-- Madmark - Madmark2150@yahoo.com Wiretreefarm.com

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Woodchuck2010

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#4 posted 03-11-2016 05:31 AM

It IS at hand! I can grab it while I’m AT the saw. It’s right next to me!!! Did you read the part about my GRR-rippers??? Those I use more than anything else and they’re at hand also. Wow! You try to create issues that aren’t there. So negative.

-- Chuck, Michigan,

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#5 posted 03-11-2016 05:43 AM

Ever try to unhook & grab the push stick in the middle of a cut? You’ve not done much woodworking where you had to change tools in the middle, have you?

Store all your safety gear in a nice fitted lock box. (Snort)

If its on a peg its not ‘at hand’ at the saw. If it’s not at the saw it doesn’t get used. If it doesn’t get used fingers get cut off. They’re your fingers. I wouldn’t have it that way in my cabinet shop. You can have it any way you want in your shop – but don’t say you weren’t warned. Idiot.

M

-- Madmark - Madmark2150@yahoo.com Wiretreefarm.com

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#6 posted 03-11-2016 05:45 AM

I think it’s an awesome use of space personally. Very convenient.

-- 'Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe.' - Abraham Lincoln

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Woodchuck2010

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#7 posted 03-11-2016 05:56 AM



I think it s an awesome use of space personally. Very convenient.

- Draeger

Thank you. Thats the whole idea. Make things as easily accessible as possible in a small shop. I was taught in the shop classes at school that you should clean up the shop after each work session and put everything back in it’s place where you can find it next time. I think I’m a hobby of Mark. I’m glad he’s concerned for my safety though. ;)

-- Chuck, Michigan,

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#8 posted 03-11-2016 06:02 AM

... I was one of the instructors ..

Keep your blade down when not in use and you still haven’t installed your new ZCI either …

-- Madmark - Madmark2150@yahoo.com Wiretreefarm.com

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Woodchuck2010

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#9 posted 03-11-2016 06:14 AM

Yes I have. The regular blade has a zci installed. Again you didn’t read my response from our first go round about this. The zci you see on the board, is for a dado. I haven’t got the dado blades yet. Do you have a recommendation for a quality dado?

-- Chuck, Michigan,

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#10 posted 03-11-2016 06:26 AM

looks like your shop is getting small with all your new tools? great use of space chuck and great pictures as always. As for a dado stack, it is my opinion that you cant go wrong with the freud.

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#11 posted 03-11-2016 04:57 PM

A ZCI is not used for a dado since dado’s, by definition is a buried cut and not a thin rip. You are absolutely certain about things you know not. You don’t recognize good advice when you get it.

Yes your shop is pretty & pristine, now will you listen to safety advice?

Your shop instructors cleaned up so the next class could start clean. In your shop the safety tools are always out and open so there is no excuse for not using a safety item.

You can act as you wish in your shop, but to advocate unsafe workshop practices to others is the line.

NEVER stretch to reach a safety tool in the middle of a cut.

Guys like you scare the crap out of me. Certain in their erroneousness.

M

-- Madmark - Madmark2150@yahoo.com Wiretreefarm.com

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#12 posted 03-11-2016 07:20 PM

I think it’s awesome. Take a look at your own shop before preaching safety to others…

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#13 posted 03-11-2016 08:28 PM

Just a theory here….what if he actually thought ahead and pulled the push stick out to use knowing he would need it before he even turned the saw on? But then again I never installed the blade guard on my TS when I bought it 10 years ago. Accidents can happen, but common sense and situational awareness can lessen the chances.

-- Derrick, Florida, DP Woodwerks

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#14 posted 03-11-2016 09:43 PM

Wait a second, wait a second…Madmark is preaching about having a clean and safe shop? Wwwhhhhaaaatttt?!!!!! Dude, call FEMA. Your shop is a disaster zone. I’m sure there’s some federal funds available that could help you get that place cleaned up after the hurricane. Don’t preach table saw safety until you can SEE your OWN table saw underneath the pile of rubbish. You post pictures of bombed out Beirut (i.e. Your shop) and you expect people to beleive that you’re a safety nut? What were you one of the instructors of anyway? Trolling, that must be it.

-- 'Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe.' - Abraham Lincoln

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#15 posted 03-11-2016 10:02 PM

Its not spotless because its an active shop (vacuumed daily), but all safety tools & sticks are at hand. The saw deck doubles as my workbench because the shop is small. The saw is cleared before use and safety checklist is followed for every cut. The shop is only about 8’ x 10x.

Been woodworking since I was 10, started full time at 15 and have been at it ever since (58 & retired). I’ve had/seen every nonlethal accident that there is and once witnessed a full hand cutoff so I know of what I speak. Have taught ‘Table Saw 101’ and have experience in accident reconstruction. Safety gear storage is only for long term storage and not for an active shop.

Anyone that keeps their safety gear stowed is an idiot and shouldn’t be allowed near sharp things. Who told you it was a good idea or did you come up with that on your own?

M

Wood workers handshake: Wiggle all fingers & say ‘I’m a woodworker & I have all 10!

-- Madmark - Madmark2150@yahoo.com Wiretreefarm.com

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