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Forum topic by onoitsmatt posted 03-06-2016 10:49 PM 710 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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onoitsmatt

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03-06-2016 10:49 PM

So I am primarily a hand tool user. The lone exception is my 14” Rikon 10-325 bandsaw for resawing. It makes an awful lot of dust and think it worth getting a dust collector even though the saw gets very little use. I’m curious if there’s a good option for dust collection for a single tool like this.

I have no intention of getting other power tools. And my shop space is limited (10×15). Wondering if there’s a good, small option that could handle the one tool’s dust that would be affordable. Also, I only have a single 20amp circuit in the shop. Would I need to add another to run the dc at the same time as the band saw?

If nothing else, would a shopvac with hepa filter work if i add a gasket or something to reduce leaking in the lid?

FWIW I have a small, ceiling mounted, air filtration system (500cfm 1 micron).

Thanks as always for your wisdom.

-- Matt - Phoenix, AZ


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conifur

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#1 posted 03-06-2016 11:22 PM

A Shop Vac is your best bang for the $ and just dont use the filter in it, get the bags that can go in it. BS are dusty and most dont give up to good dust collection, no matter what you use for DC.

-- Knowledge and experience equals Wisdom, Michael Frankowski

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paratrooper34

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#2 posted 03-06-2016 11:39 PM

I use a shop vac on my 14” band saw. I am in the same boat as you: hand tool user with a couple of power tools and have no intentions of getting any more or getting a dust collection system. The shop vac works just fine for this.

-- Mike

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English

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#3 posted 03-07-2016 01:42 AM

A shop vac with a dust deputy cyclone would work great for one band saw.

-- John, Suffolk Virgina

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Paul M

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#4 posted 03-07-2016 03:35 AM

+ 1 on the shop vac. I use a good bag filter as well as a HEPA cartridge.

-- Paul M

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JBrow

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#5 posted 03-07-2016 05:14 AM

onoitsmatt,

A dust collector is quieter than the shop vac, and since you are a hand tool guy, I assume you appreciate the quiet. However, a shop vac could meet your needs without spending much money. But, a shop vac may not offer the air flow you would like.

A small portable dust collector should work just fine for the bandsaw. I used a ½ hp dust collector on my bandsaw with good results. In so doing, I had a lot of static pressure due to an added cyclone and long pipe runs, which reduced suction. In your case a direct-connect a unit as small as ½ hp should offer plenty of power and suction. I would recommend fine dust filter bag(s) on a dust collector should you opt for one. Even though you have an air cleaner, the fine dust filtration on the dust collector is a healthier option and helps tame dust that would otherwise get everywhere.

I would think a unit like the Penn State Industries 1.5HP DC3 Portable Dust Collector with 1 Micron Bag, Item #: DC3-1M for $329 could work. The bag on this unit would have to be emptied frequently and suction loss would occur as the bag fills. But used infrequently, it could meet your need. I am sure you could find other, perhaps smaller, units as well.

https://www.pennstateind.com/store/DC3-1M.html

If my math and conversion are correct, a 1-½ hp motor would use a little more than 9 amps on a 120v circuit once the motor reaches full rpm. At 80% capacity, that leaves about 7 amps available for other loads on your 20 amp circuit.

So if you have a shop vac already, try it out. If it does not offer the performance you would like, shop for a small dust collector.

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coxhaus

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#6 posted 03-07-2016 06:10 AM

I have a small shop with a 14” Rikon 10-325 that I use for my wood working hobby. I use the small Rikon dust collector with my band saw. It is small and fairly quiet with a 4 inch hose. I just move it from tool to tool. Actually the 10 foot hose will reach 2 of my tools and the other 2 I can roll over or sometimes I move the dust collector. It depends on what I am doing. The Rikon dust collector is easy to clean. I just pop a clamp on the dust collector and then the motor and bag lift off. I take the motor and bag outside and brush it with my dust brush. I then dump the wood chips in the compose pile. I bought mine used off craigslist.

Here is a link on this site.
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/3568

I have thought about upgrading. I would have to put a larger unit outside and run the hose in through the window.

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onoitsmatt

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#7 posted 03-07-2016 02:24 PM

Thanks for the input, folks.

Coxhaus, that’s the exact unit I’ve been looking at. It has a 0.5 micron inner filter and is on sale for $180 at woodcraft.

English, I’m eyeballing the dust deputy (and dust right) cyclones too. More affordable than a dc unit. And both are currently listed on my local craigslist for only $50.

Thanks again!

-- Matt - Phoenix, AZ

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bigJohninvegas

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#8 posted 03-07-2016 04:09 PM

I am using the the larger harbor freight DC, and I have a couple friends that have the little HF DC That mounts to the wall. Both work well and can be found cheap on craigslist. I have seen the smalI wall mount DC left on the floor under a table saw wing. Just used on one tool. Nice and out of the way. I also have my shop vac hooked up to my miter saw, and have hoses to reduce it to fit smaller tools like a router or hand held sander. The shop vac works well too, but unless you get a cyclone to go with it, you will want to keep a bag in it. The fine dust will kill a shop vac pretty kwik.

-- John

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coxhaus

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#9 posted 03-07-2016 05:55 PM

I wonder how the Rikon DC and harbor freight small DC compare?

I have never used anything but the Rikon DC and a shop vac.

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#10 posted 03-07-2016 06:30 PM

Consider something like a Dust Right wall mounted unit from Rockler ( http://www.rockler.com/new-dust-rightreg-wall-mount-dust-collector). I believe they offer a 5 micron bag as an extra.

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coxhaus

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#11 posted 03-07-2016 07:52 PM

I don’t have a corner. I think it would need go under my Delta contractor table saw. How much trouble are the bags to get on and off? I might have a corner if I rip out these old plywood cabinets which I have been thinking about. Probably not this year by the time I get them rebuilt.

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#12 posted 03-07-2016 09:10 PM

Check out this one….it’s one of the cheapest true-Hepa vacs out there, right now. I’ve got one and can attest that it has excellent suction. Only drawback is that the bags are kind of expensive.

http://www.amazon.com"/Vacmaster-VK811PH-Stage-Motor-gallon/dp/B007ULBA4W/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1457384790&sr=8-14&keywords=vacmaster

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coxhaus

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#13 posted 03-07-2016 11:21 PM

I have a Fein Turbo I vac I use with sanders and hand tools. I like the Rikon better for the larger tools. It is easier to clean and dump also. It only takes a couple of minutes to clean the Rikon DC.

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bearkatwood

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#14 posted 03-07-2016 11:59 PM

I have a section in the back of my shop that I was looking at putting a dedicated vac system in for one, maybe two tools. I am leaning toward the Dust Right

If that is a bit too pricey then shop vac makes a wall mounted version

-- Brian Noel

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Vincent Nocito

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#15 posted 03-08-2016 01:27 AM

The bag is held on with something like a toggle clamp. It runs about 12 amps. The Penn State unit pulls about 16 amps.

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