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Forum topic by Ray D posted 03-06-2016 04:03 AM 535 views 1 time favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Ray D

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03-06-2016 04:03 AM

Topic tags/keywords: saw blade ts 2000 r4512 ridge

Hi!

First off I’m sorry for the rambling and I hope I explained my needs correctly. I know I’ve asked numerous questions before and have yet to respond to the needs of others but I’m still getting myself back up to speed and don’t want to misinform anyone with improper answers. After falling ill I found myself with a lot of time on my hands so after decades of giving up my old shop and because of life’s new curve ball I decide to build a new shop again. With the exception of my table saw I have now spent thousands on full size machines and the basement build out. I really wanted a full size cabinet saw but the size was a bit much to get into the basement. So after reading a lot of reviews I sold my other smaller new saw. Then after receiving a “I’m sorry for the poor service, here is a $100 credit for whenever you want to use it” from HD (plus I had a coupon), I bought a Ridgid R4512 for $400 – it had all the new cast markings on it so let’s hope all goes well with it. Ha! Ha!

So my question is about a proper blade that’s compatible with a RK. The R4512 RK states the minimum blade kerf is .094 with the RK being .090. I was thinking that’s great, I got a new Ridge TS 2000 thin kerf (.094) for Christmas. I decided to double check the RK thickness and found it to be .092 (I think the increase is because of the powder coat and really don’t want to grind it down). With that be said I am now unsure if I want to chance that blade not working with the increase thickness of the RK and end up with now a used blade instead of new blade. Anyway, I emailed Ridge Carbide to get the actual kerf of the blade (which is an actual .094) and based off my concerns they proposed that since they make their own blades here in the USA, they could make me whatever kerf I want. To play it safe I’m considering a .100 grind. Truth being said, I would rather have a separate Ripper and CC but I can’t find a good thin kerf that fits. Do you think the .100 Ridge blade (body .087) is an acceptable choice or, does anyone have any other suggestions?

Side Note The folks at Ridge Carbide are wonderful to work with. Very responsive and will to work with you. Thanks again,
Ray

-- Ray - Minooka, Illinois


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#1 posted 03-06-2016 12:43 PM

With the riving knife removed, make a test cut with your TS2000 partially through a board….an inch or two will do, turn off the saw, then check and see how well the kerf of the cut fits over the riving knife. Numbers aside, the total kerf width is going to be the sum total of the arbor and flange runout and blade runout. You might be just fine as is if you get everything lined up well.

There are several good 3/32” TK choices that are numerically wider than 0.094”, and there are advantages to going with task specific blades. The Infinity 010-060 60T Hi-ATB CC blade is an awesome all around blade….it’ll do a great job in fine crosscuts, plywood, and will leave a very clean rip cut in materials up to an inch or so. Kerf is listed as 0.104”, is ~ $70 and is just a great versatile blade. Their 010-124 TK glue line rip blade has a kerf of 0.097” – $50.

The entire Irwin Marples series is stated at 0.098”, and are excellent value with a good selection of blade types.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#2 posted 03-06-2016 01:42 PM

I also own the Rigid 4512, and for the first two years ran the 60 tooth Diablo sold in HD. It ran fine, but occasionally was a bit tighter when the cut came past the riving knife since it was essentially the same size. It would slow down a bit, often causing a burn on woods like cherry. I just lived with it and pushed a bit harder when cutting cherry or other hard, dense woods that tend to burn, like hard maple.

I recently finally dulled the Diablo after two years, and had an Irwin Marples on the shelf, this one being a 50 tooth, I believe. The difference was immediate, with my cuts just moving smoothly past the riving knife.

I’m one of the lucky ones who never had much problem with my Rigid, save for a cheap C clip coming off the raise/lower worm shaft. After putting on a more robust C clip, it has been flawless.

I think after my first two years, and the difference in cut quality between the Diablo and Irwin, I will stay with the dark blue guys and future replacements will be Irwin.

-- Paul, Tennessee, http://www.tsunamiguitars.com

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#3 posted 03-07-2016 12:18 AM

Thank you both for taking the time to respond to my long winded question. You Rock! Ha! But… I looked at the Infinity 010-124 & 010-060 blades you mentioned Scott, but they’re not the top line blades. However, I’ve read they do a great job and produce smooth cuts.
So… I can get the two Infinity blades for $110 (I got a $10 rebate) or the TS 2000 for $119 ($88 Bld – $10 Grind – $20 ship).

Whos willing to just pick one????

-- Ray - Minooka, Illinois

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#4 posted 03-07-2016 01:36 AM

Infinity makes some of best blades I’ve used. They’re top line in my book. The 010-060 was one of my all time favorites when I had a 120v saw….it’s one of the few 3/32” TK blades I kept once I went to a 3hp saw. Plus, any good crosscut blade will give cleaner fine crosscuts and better plywood performance than a good general purpose blade. Same is true of the ripper…a decent 24T ripper will be notably more efficient at thick ripping than a top shelf 40T general purpose blade. The TS2000 is a great general purpose blade, but by design, it’s a jack of all trades and master of none….it’s kind of like comparing all season tires to snow tires and racing slicks…within their intended scope, there’s no contest. Having owned and used all of those blades, I wouldn’t hesitate for a second to pick the Infinity separates over the TS2000, unless you had your heart set on using only one blade.

If you’re looking for the very best crosscut/ply performance, the Ultrasmooth 80T Hi-ATB 010-080 is their best crosscut blade, but you’ll give up some versatility and the ability rip anything but really thin material for the sake of a tad less tearout. It’s also full kerf. I’d be inclined to stick with the 010-060, but it really depends on your cutting objectives.

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#5 posted 03-07-2016 03:20 AM

Well Scott, I just ordered the two Infinity blades. My over overthinking seems to always get in the way of things. Can’t wait to get them! Thank you so much Scott for the clear direction.

-- Ray - Minooka, Illinois

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#6 posted 03-07-2016 03:22 PM



Well Scott, I just ordered the two Infinity blades. My over overthinking seems to always get in the way of things. Can t wait to get them! Thank you so much Scott for the clear direction.

- Ray D

Let us know how you make out with them….

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#7 posted 03-07-2016 10:36 PM

I’ll do that Scott but, it’s going to be a while. I just got an email saying they’re out of stock and I should have it in about three weeks or maybe more. Ha! Oh well!

-- Ray - Minooka, Illinois

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#8 posted 03-23-2016 09:12 PM

Just got my two new Infinity TK blades. Here’s hoping they cut as nice as they are shiny. Ha!


-- Ray - Minooka, Illinois

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