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Forum topic by MalcolmLaurel posted 03-01-2016 06:03 PM 563 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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MalcolmLaurel

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03-01-2016 06:03 PM

I’m looking at a Delta Rockwell 105 RAS a couple of towns over on CL. Owner is asking $225. I need to replace my worn out DeWalt 7749. Yes, I know many folks don’t like radial saws, but they work well for what I do. Thoughts?

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Fred Hargis

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#1 posted 03-01-2016 06:36 PM

It’s an excellent saw, and may well outperform your 7749 in terms of repeatability. The price may be a little on the high side, but that’s your call. There were 2 versions of that saw, one a 9”, the other (Deluxe) was a 10”.

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#2 posted 03-01-2016 06:41 PM

The ad says it’s a 10”. One concern I have, I saw something saying it’s only a 1hp motor… my current saw is 2.5hp and it still occasionally gets bogged down, especially when ripping.

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Fred Hargis

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#3 posted 03-01-2016 07:04 PM

Compare the amps of the 2 motors, your Dewalt was at the time they started inflating HP numbers for marketing reasons. The Delta may still be slightly less, but plenty adequate. I had a Dewalt with a 1 HP (true rating) and found it to be plenty adequate, I suspect the Delta will do just as well. There is a manual for that saw over at OWWM if you need it.

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ralbuck

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#4 posted 03-01-2016 07:11 PM

The price on used RAS has come down a lot; because the new miter saws do so much of the same work and are very reasonably priced.

I have seen a lot of RAS saws here on C’list for under a C-note! Watch a while unless your old saw is deceased!

You may find a lot better deal! Also find out WHY it is for sale; estate sales are usually a better tool than pawn-shop 2nd hand store etc. offer.

Good luck and “happy Hunting”.

-- just rjR

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#5 posted 03-01-2016 07:44 PM

I own one of these and can say from experience that it is a good saw. I picked up mine for $250, and it did need a lot of work.

I have used it for cutting tenons, but on occasion have used it to cross cut rough stock. I keep a dado set installed most of the time, and when cross cutting, I use a blade with a negative hook angle. It has plenty of power. I have never used it for ripping.

The saw is accurate, and is easy to tune up (compared to my craftsmen POS), and stays in tune.

I do need new bearings for the motor as the blade spins for minutes after I kill the power switch.

-- Nicky

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#6 posted 03-02-2016 11:27 AM

Well, the seller still hasn’t gotten back to me so it may be sold. Another one, cheaper but not so close, looked great until he sent me pictures… too rusty. I’m now looking at a DeWalt 1400:

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Fred Hargis

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#7 posted 03-02-2016 12:16 PM

The 1400 is a fantastic saw, but I will offer one caution. It will probably have what is called a Frame 235 motor (check the motor plate), and is only 3/4 HP (unless it was changed). That motor worked fine with the HSS steel blades os the day and the thinner kerf they cut, but with a carbide tooth blade (even a TK one) they can struggle. It’s not so bad that they aren’t usable, I used one for many years, but tough cuts can be challenging. One good point, the guard is made for a 10” blade, so you aren’t searching for 9” ones (hard to find). That particular saw looks very original, and they are well made and can be tuned to be dead nuts accurate. I’d say go for it.

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#8 posted 03-03-2016 12:30 AM

Well, the first guy with the Delta called me back, I’m going to look at it this weekend. Then… I gotta decide which is better for me, the Delta or the DeWalt? I like the Delta swing arm concept, I think, and it has a bigger motor. To throw another spanner into the works, though, there’s another Delta I can get for only $20… but it looks like there’s lots of rust, might not be worth the trouble. For $20 I’d just grab it anyway, except for the drive, it’s an hour away.

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Fred Hargis

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#9 posted 03-03-2016 12:07 PM

I think it will come down to price (IMHO). The motor on the Delta would be an advantage, but either saw will serve you very well. The Delta does have another advantage, you can cut left and right miters. On the Dewalt cutting one on the left side of the table is almost impossible, so much so that Wally Kunkel calls that positon “useless”. As for the $20 saw, I once bought a Dewalt 925 for $25 that was in very poor shape, but I thought I could save it. Turns out I couldn’t, but parting the saw out paid for the saw (and the trip, 140 mile round trip) as well as helped bring some other fine saws back to life.

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#10 posted 03-06-2016 04:40 AM

Well, I got the original Delta saw I was looking at. Got it for $150 when I mentioned another one on CL (farther away) was being offered for that price. Spent awhile chatting with the seller about the kinds of work we do (he’s in the home restoration business and does a lot with reclaimed wood and hardware, and likes to talk). Saw seems to be in good shape, only the elevating screw is very hard to turn so I took it apart and cleaned it up, tomorrow I’ll hit it with white lithium grease (unless somebody has a better selection?) and put it back together, then clean and oil the rails and the lock pin plungers which are also sticky. Then build a table for it, and put the 7749 up on CL cheap, I guess. I’m debating whether to make the 2 hour roundtrip drive and grab the $20 one for parts… maybe see if it’s still there when I go out that way next weekend.

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Fred Hargis

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#11 posted 03-06-2016 12:32 PM

Congrats, it will serve you well. Curious about the motor, have you cut anything and did you find it adequate?

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MalcolmLaurel

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#12 posted 03-06-2016 12:57 PM

Can’t cut anything until I put it back together and build a table for it. But it should be fine; it’s a 13 amp motor and the one on the 7749 is 12.5.

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#13 posted 03-21-2016 02:27 AM

I got the saw together and a new table on it this weekend… very nice, cut through a 1½” thick hickory slab like it was butter (though the brand new thin kerf blade was no doubt a factor). I also picked up the $20 one last weekend; it’s crispy and missing some parts but the blade guard alone was worth it as the one on the other one was cracked. If the motor runs (haven’t tried it yet) I may make a disk sander out of it as I got the sanding disk attachment with the good one. I’d like to find a planer attachment, too… I know it won’t make a great planer for general use but I can see it being useful for the kinds of work I do.

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Fred Hargis

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#14 posted 03-21-2016 11:37 AM

Glad to hear you’re happy with it.

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