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Forum topic by a1Jim posted 02-23-2010 05:10 AM 3078 views 1 time favorited 23 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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a1Jim

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02-23-2010 05:10 AM

Topic tags/keywords: tip

I thought you might want to check out Charles new router bit. It looks like a winner can’t wait to get mine I’ve used those really big bits and there down right scary . This one does the same job but it’s not such a monster plus being made by White-side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91gUIvATqx4

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture


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#1 posted 02-23-2010 05:23 AM

Good information Jim thanks.
Would you have an address where to get that bit.

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#2 posted 02-23-2010 05:31 AM

It is good to advertise a new router bit but it should show where to buy it.

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#3 posted 02-23-2010 05:36 AM

Thanks Jim for the heads up on this. Looks like a great bit! Think I will get one and add it to my collection.

Mike

-- Mike, VT

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#4 posted 02-23-2010 05:43 AM

Jim…excellent find. Thank you!

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#5 posted 02-23-2010 05:57 AM

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#6 posted 02-23-2010 06:42 AM

I like it any idea how much it is?
Thanks Jim

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#7 posted 02-23-2010 07:12 AM

I have had trouble with cutting dovetails with a router and do them by hand but after watching Charles cut them in his video for the day Dovetails — Setting Up a Variable Space Jig I think I will give it another try. I like his style and the fact he don’t try to make a video where everything goes perfect which I think all most never happens (in my case any way) When I do some new technique and it don’t go as it is shown in the demos it makes me feel like “I will never get this right” but when I watch Charles its really the way it is and I say OH its ok I just need a few tries to get it perfect.

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#8 posted 02-23-2010 07:52 AM

That looks a lot like the WoodRiver Cove and Bead bit I saw at Woodcraft. A friend bought it and it looks NICE. The picture on Woodcraft’s page doesn’t do it justice.

-- Kansas City, KS "Nothing is as permanent as a temporary solution"

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#9 posted 02-23-2010 02:57 PM

Thanks Jim I am getting one of those router bits.

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#10 posted 02-23-2010 03:05 PM

thanks for your interest guys , here is the link for pricing and to order
http://charlesneilwoodworking.com/articles.php?art=0210routerbitspecial

the bit is actually the bottom part of the big multi form , it is similar to the woodriver cove and bead , except it will do a full radius instead of just the bead , , but you can also get the same profile as the cove and bead by raising the bit , in the video that goes with the bit ( this special only) , we show several different profiles you can get , I use it alot as a case , base molding , by putting the full radius with the cove up, makes a great transitiion for feet below , as well i will use it to make a top profile and turn the cove down with the full radius on top, it creates a great looking top, I use it to “top” my crowns , I honestly use it everywhere , but like i said , i always had to use the huge multi form to get the profile , this makes it alot more friendly , this isnt done as some big moneymaking thing ,I ask Whiteside to make the bit for me , and decided you migh like one as well , thats it nothing more , here is a link to my photo gallery , so you can look around and you will see the molding in use, note the small keeping chest on the front page , the top and the bottom molding is this one, just cove up and cove down http://antiquesbuiltdaily.com/photogallery.htm

thanks for your support guys , blessings to all

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#11 posted 02-23-2010 03:41 PM

Moldings can be so much more than just trappings to just randomly hang on a project. They offer the whole vocabulary of design to manipulate the whole visual experience of a piece. Ask most women and they’ll tell you the shape and size of her ear rings will alter the appearance of her face. A one size and shape approach doesn’t work any better with moldings than ear rings.

I prefer hand planes, hollows and rounds plus a rabbet plane or two to create moldings. One can buy old ones and tune them up or even make the planes themselves. With these one can make about any molding they may want and in any size. While I don’t think I’d want to make the moldings for a whole house this way, the few feet needed for a piece of furniture is easy and one isn’t limited by the shapes of router bits offered. It’s also pretty quick, I could probably make the eight or ten feet I’d need for a piece quicker than I could set up a router in a router table. There’s no danger, no dust and I can listen to the radio through the whole process.

Here’s an example I happen to have a photo of. It’s similar to the router bits being discussed here. There are two different patterns of cove-ovolo moldings and they were produced with the same three planes. Depending on how they’re used, their visual effect can be dramatically different.

cove-ovolo molding

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#12 posted 02-23-2010 03:55 PM

Thanks Jim & Charles great looking versital bit. Charles likes using that Curly Maple for test pieces, his pile must be as big as mine!

-- There's many a slip betwixt a cup and a lip.--Scott

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#13 posted 02-23-2010 04:32 PM

actually the molding profile on the hand plane ones is a classical pattern http://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v171-2002/ea_-_edge_forming

this bit is the total reverse , the cove is to the inside and the radius is to the outside , as well it can form a full radius on the edge , note the profile in the video , and i agree moldings like earrings , can make a huge difference , but have you ever noticed , how a nice set of diamond earrings kind of go with everything , like white sneakers and jeans .I have proably every profile router bit and alot of moulding planes , from the stanley 55 to some english specialty profiles , but it seems , like those diamond earrings , i keep coming back to this profile , it just works that well , at least for me

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#14 posted 02-23-2010 05:36 PM

Thanks Jim & Charles! It looks gorgeous…I’ve always liked the Whiteside bits. I just got my pre-order in.

-- Kansas City, KS "Nothing is as permanent as a temporary solution"

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#15 posted 02-23-2010 11:33 PM

Ordered my bit and DVD today. I like the easy way and have about 160 feet to mill, NO hand planning for me time is money.

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