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Forum topic by b2rtch posted 02-28-2016 01:22 PM 815 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-28-2016 01:22 PM

We enjoy the Internet in great part because it is free of charge.
If we had to pay every time we logon or every time we watch a video or every time we read something on LJ, we certainly would stop very rapidly to watch anything on the Internet.

I have been using the Internet for many years; before some of you were born.
I spend several years of my life as a Cisco network administrator developing the Internet as we now know it.
There are many things I could live without but to live without the Internet for me would be very difficult.

The Internet it free for us but of course it is not free for all.
Someone somewhere is spending a huge amount of money to keep the things running, to provide content, to develop it, to install new systems, to develop and to improve these things that we enjoy.

I have been using adblockers since they came out but lately more and more often when visiting a site, I can read these messages saying that using an ablboclker prevent the owner of the site to get any revenue from my visit.

Just like if I would receive a service from any other kind of business and I would refuse to pay for. Like entering a store, pick what you want and walking out without paying.
This would be dishonest and in the long run everything that is now for free would have to either disappear or to be for a fee.

My honesty is very important for me.

I like to pay for what I use, if not I am stealing.
In addition, I want to make sure that the Internet will remain free of charge, so I decide to disable my adblockers and to live with the ads.

I am happy to have the option to live with a free Internet +ads or to not to have an Internet at all.

I know that there always will be those who choose to go for free ride and expect the other to pick the tab for them.

-- Bert

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#1 posted 02-28-2016 06:32 PM

Well, first off, the Internet is NOT free. Due to the nature of the beast, everyone pays for their little piece of it, which when combined forms the whole. You pay to access it via your phone/cable bill. That in turn allows your provider to pay for equipment and lines to the various exchanges which forms the lions share of the transport backbone. Hosting companies/data centers charge for services and operational expenses which covers their costs. Web site owners cover their costs by various means such as advertising, access/subscription fees, as part of their pricing for online sales, donations/grants, etc… Everyone has a finger in the pie, and everyone pays one way or another to keep their little corner of it operational. Advertising is just a very, very small part of the big picture. Consider Craigslist – which has no advertising, yet made millions last year.

I don’t use any ad-blockers (but I do have a rather large hosts file which sends most garbage to the bit bucket). And having been in this game (both as a user and provider) since well before Tim and CERN made it so popular, have no problem doing so. We will all continue paying for our little corner, regardless.


-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#2 posted 02-28-2016 06:46 PM

If you provide the content are you not paying? They are making money off the free contributions. Simply a site like this exist because of the free labor, ideas, pictures, blogs, etc… that “we” collectively built. I honestly find it absurd to think we should pay a monetary amount on top of it.

I never used ad blocker until sites like this and others kept pushing the bounds with adds. They became obtrusive and started to impact the navigation and use of the site. I haven’t disabled ad block on this site to see if things are better now. Some sites do a very good job with the advertising and I see it as useful just need a good balance.

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#3 posted 02-28-2016 07:40 PM

We enjoy the Internet in great part because it is free of charge.
If we had to pay every time we logon or every time we watch a video or every time we read something on LJ, we certainly would stop very rapidly to watch anything on the Internet.

- b2rtch

Maybe YOU get your internet for free, but I damn sure pay for it; about $60.00 a month. Not sure what point you are trying to make, but you live in a bubble if you think the internet is free for everyone. It isn’t.

-- Mike

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#4 posted 02-28-2016 07:59 PM

“Maybe YOU get your internet for free, but I damn sure pay for it; about $60.00 a month”

This is the price you pay to be connected to an international network, you do not pay for the content, the content is free to you.

-- Bert

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#5 posted 02-29-2016 12:49 AM


-- Bert

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#6 posted 02-29-2016 04:46 AM

I turn off my ad blocker for: YouTube because there are many woodworkers who put tremendous effort into providing quality videos for my entertainment; and John Heisz’ website and forum because he pays the costs out of pocket and I respect the effort he puts forth, I don’t begrudge him whatever ad money he can get. LJ is stupid with advertisements, last time I turned my adblocker off I think I counted 14 ads on one page, F that. Advertising is designed to change the way you think and no matter how resistant you are—garbage in, garbage out.

-- Rick M,

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#7 posted 02-29-2016 10:28 PM

I don’t use ad blockers. Some web sites become unuseable with all the junk ads taking forever to load. I have switched to a few stress-free newsgroups and forums. In fact, this forum has dropped down on my list, but is no longer my preferred forum because of the ads.

I pay around $50 per month for internet at home, but I believe that most of that cost goes to the service provider providing service to my house. I don’t think any of it goes towards providing the content.

My personal opinion is that the internet has become so bloated with ads trying to get me to click to their web site so they can earn a fraction of the ad revenue. I would prefer to pay a small amount of money to get ad-free content. The amount of spam would drop significantly if everybody had to pay for what they use.

-- Steve

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#8 posted 02-29-2016 10:45 PM

I run a similar style as Rick M. I will give you a chance with no adblocker, because I get it. However, if your site is laden with ads, they’re obtrusive, excessive, or detract from the overall usefulness of the site, I’ll either not come back or turn on adblock (like here).

It’s not stealing, blocking ads is not illegal, and the content is in your words “Free”. Everything I do online is out of my own pocket, and I do it out of my passion for whatever I’m doing, not to make money. I also have a day job, so there’s that. I’m not greedy, I like to contribute however I can since I also enjoy the free content others put out.

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN - -

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#9 posted 02-29-2016 10:58 PM

I just disabled AdBlocker on this page and hit refresh.

Snap snap, grin grin, wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more?

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