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Ron Collins

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02-27-2016 03:21 PM

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I am having serious trouble installing a timberwolfe 14 t/in, 1/8 wide, 131 1/2 High Performance blade on my Grizzly G0513ANV bandsaw. I think I have it tracking properly and then the damn thing just slowly starts riding and before I know it it comes right off the tire. I can put on a 3/4 blade and I’m fine. Anyone have similar issues or can tell me what I’m doing wrong? I would really appreciate any suggestions.

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WhyMe

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#1 posted 02-27-2016 05:09 PM

Have you tried setting the blade tension a little higher?

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#2 posted 02-27-2016 10:06 PM

Thsbks for the reply. Yes, I did. I kept incrementally making it tighter until the blade broke. I just can’t figure out why it wouldn’t track in the center.

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#3 posted 02-28-2016 01:56 AM

I had the identical problem with the same blade and my 17” Grizzly. You went the wrong way with the tension. I backed the tension way off and got that 1/8” blade to track perfectly. Your next problem will be setting your side roller guides back far enough to guide the blade while NOT contacting the teeth. I bought a Carter Stabilizer and it works great with those narrow blades.

I was very surprised how little tension those 1/8” blades require.

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#4 posted 02-28-2016 02:55 AM

just curious ron , did the blade come off the tire toward the front of the saw or the rear?

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#5 posted 02-28-2016 03:03 PM


Thsbks for the reply. Yes, I did. I kept incrementally making it tighter until the blade broke. I just can t figure out why it wouldn t track in the center.

- Ron Collins

Sorry to hear the blade broke. Usually people have a tendency to set the blade tension too low and those blade tension guides on band saws are usually not accurate and are on the low side is why I asked if you tried setting the tension a little higher. I didn’t think you were going to keep cranking it up until it was like a piano string.

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#6 posted 02-28-2016 04:01 PM


just curious ron , did the blade come off the tire toward the front of the saw or the rear?

- DirtyMike

Thanks gfadvm, I will give that a try when the new blades arrive.

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#7 posted 02-28-2016 04:08 PM



just curious ron , did the blade come off the tire toward the front of the saw or the rear?

- DirtyMike

When I would tighten, it would ride off the back and when i would back it off it would ride off the front. I was adjusting at something like 1/4 to 1/2 a turn with each try.

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#8 posted 02-28-2016 04:18 PM


Thsbks for the reply. Yes, I did. I kept incrementally making it tighter until the blade broke. I just can t figure out why it wouldn t track in the center.

- Ron Collins

Sorry to hear the blade broke. Usually people have a tendency to set the blade tension too low and those blade tension guides on band saws are usually not accurate and are on the low side is why I asked if you tried setting the tension a little higher. I didn t think you were going to keep cranking it up until it was like a piano string.

- WhyMe

I immediately felt like a moron when it broke. I think by that point i was just incredibly frustrated and I let that override my good sense. I ordered a selection of blades directly from Grizzly this time. I thought I might try those and see if the tracking problem was the idiot turning the knob or possibly a defect in the blade. I don’t hold out much hope that it was the blade though.

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#9 posted 02-28-2016 08:48 PM

Ron, I think that I have the same saw and the same blade but I had never tried the 1/8” before today. Just to see if it is a problem with the blade or the saw. As a test, I first cut a 1/4” radius loop. Then, I “resawed” a zigzag line on edge of a triagular (0 to 4.75” wide) piece of 3/4” plywood and it worked flawlessly.

Remember that one of the selling points (claims anyway) of the Timberwolf blades is that they do not require as much tension as other blades do. I am by no means an expert on bandsaws and since this is my first and only bandsaw, I cannot compare those claims but I do see that the blade that came with the saw requires more tension than the comparably sized TW blade. I use the flutter method described in the sheet that came with the blade to set the tension and it has worked very well for me. When using TW blades, the tension scale is almost useless because most of them barely hit the “1” on the scale and on the 1/8” blade, the needle is about where the zero would be on the scale if it had one. When I use the quick release to detension and retension the blade after it is set properly, it really doesn’t apply all that much force on the blade. I will say that it is a challenge to get the stock guides set properly on the 1/8” blade though. If you plan to use a 1/8” blade frequently, it might be worth looking into upgrading the guides to make them more effective.

You mentioned that you adjusted the tension but you did not mention trying to adjust the blade tracking. If the tension of the blade is set properly, which is basically the minimum so that it doesn’t flutter without the guides in place, then the only adjustments should be tracking or the guides placement. I have only changed the tracking once right after I got it but since then, I have never had to touch it. The only time I have had to increase tension above the initial flutter test setting was when milling 10” logs into lumber with the 3/4” blade. Even then, I think that most of the problem was related related to the edge guides, my technique and the fact that I was milling a hickory log. In my limited experience, if I have to increase the tension by more than about 1/4 to 1/2 a turn of the tension knob after completing the flutter test, something other than tension is the problem. Make sure you also look at the section in the manual on aligning the wheels if none of the adjustments work. I have not had to do that myself but the problem you describe sounds similar to the symptoms that dictate a need to do that. Also make sure that the wheels are on tightly and have no wobble. I could see that a slightly loose wheel might cause the tracking to change when changing the tension? Just a thought.

If you still have a problem with your new bade after checking the tracking adjustment, I would call Grizzly Customer Service. I have heard that they usually have someone in their technical support who can give you some advice to improve the performance of the saw.

Whew. Sorry I got so long winded but hopefully one of these thoughts will help. Let us know how it goes.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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gfadvm

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#10 posted 02-28-2016 11:34 PM

I assumed that you tracked the blade by hand spinning the wheels before turning the saw on. Right????

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