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bigblockyeti

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02-26-2016 01:04 PM

I’ve gotten the go ahead to get a drum sander and need opinions. I’ve seen a few Grizzly and Woodmaster sanders (used) not too far from me and the prices seem to be in the $1100 – $1600 range and I’m not sure which is built better and would perform better. The Grizzly model in question is G1066, the Woodmaster model is W2675. I have a few Grizzly machines and they seem to be ok, certainly not top of the line, but the few flaws I’ve found have been minor, I have very little experience with Woodmaster machines other than working on them. The Woodmaster is 2” wider which would be better and is made in the USA which for me is a bonus but performance and longevity are paramount in my decision. Who has one of these that can offer some insight?


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#1 posted 02-26-2016 07:38 PM

I have been working as a full time cabinet maker for over 35yrs. and have had the opportunity to work with a number of Grizzly drum sanders and every single one of them was a piece of junk.We had nothing but problems with them.I haven’t worked with the woodmaster but have heard good things about them.I have worked with the powermatic
(don’t remember what size)and I was impressed.ultimately a wide belt sander is the best way to go,but they are ridiculously expensive.

I hope this helps and good luck

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#2 posted 02-26-2016 07:49 PM



... and have had the opportunity to work with a number of Grizzly drum sanders and every single one of them was a piece of junk.We had nothing but problems with them
.....ultimately a wide belt sander is the best way to go,but they are ridiculously expensive.

I hope this helps and good luck

- chiseler

Guessing you haven’t used a G0449. Pretty impressive for a drum sander.

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#3 posted 02-26-2016 07:58 PM


... and have had the opportunity to work with a number of Grizzly drum sanders and every single one of them was a piece of junk.We had nothing but problems with them
.....ultimately a wide belt sander is the best way to go,but they are ridiculously expensive.

I hope this helps and good luck

- chiseler

Guessing you haven t used a G0449. Pretty impressive for a drum sander.

- Drew


I don’t believe that I have.Is it a newer model? the ones that I have used just left a bad taste in my mouth I guess

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bigblockyeti

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#4 posted 02-26-2016 09:25 PM

I looked at the G0449 and that would be really nice for being able to sand doors sometime down the line, but for now I’m quite sure I don’t have the dust collection to support a machine that could generate that much dust. I might still consider it if I could find one around $1200.

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#5 posted 02-26-2016 10:13 PM

I’ve got a good bit of Grizz and the larger tools are pretty good. I’ve not used woodmaster personally but been up close to some wood masters, and i would put them above a grizzly. I own a griz 12” jointer, 17” bs, and had a 10” TS

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#6 posted 02-27-2016 01:10 AM

Can’t comment on the drum sander but I have an 18” Woodmaster planer that has been tortured and performed flawlessly. The Woodmaster guys are great to deal with and I get blades/parts very quickly. Their Leeson motors are tough and reliable.

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JBrow

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#7 posted 02-27-2016 01:27 AM

bigblockyeti,

I have a Woodmaster W-3875 single drum sander bought new in 2009. I also own a Woodmaster W-712 12” Planer, bought new in 1991. My woodworking is a hobby, so these machines do not get the use they would in a cabinet shop.

I think a lot of the Woodmaster brand for several reasons. The machines offer a simple and straightforward design. These machines can be fixed if a part every fails – which has yet to happen. The company offers a wide area of supporting products. I have had no reason to contact the company, so I remain mute regarding customer service. It seems that every piece of equipment they sell is equipped with a 5 hp brand name motor. The drum sander came with a Leeson motor.

The Woodmaster machine is, based on my experience, a good bet. My planer has been going strong since 1991. I have had no issues with the newer drum sander either.

If you were to select the Woodmaster, a couple of add-ons you may want to consider are the Woodmaster infeed and outfeed rollers. These extend the sanding bed. Also I highly recommend a reversing switch. This $100 add-on, with the feed roller extension, allows you to never leave your position near the switch and the elevation crank. After the lumber clears the sanding drum, reverse the bed direction and the lumber comes back to you. While dust collection with a CV1800 and a 5” port picks up almost all the dust as the lumber disappears from view, when it re-emerges using the reversing switch, some dust remains, which I wipe off.

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bigblockyeti

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#8 posted 02-27-2016 02:04 AM

Thanks for all the input, I am leaning toward the Woodmaster, but as it’s a used machine I don’t know when I’ll be able to look at it or if it’ll still be there when I can.

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rwe2156

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#9 posted 02-27-2016 11:28 AM

I have a dual drum Grizzly 16”. I wouldn’t say its a POS but it is certainly not a well made machine.

I had crazy trouble keeping the sanding belts on until I upgraded to hook and loop (I think all the WM sanders are H/L). It will burn the wood pretty quickly I think the feed rate is too slow.

I’ve checked out WM it is no doubt a much higher quality machine.

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JBrow

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#10 posted 02-27-2016 04:00 PM

bigblockyeti, (Regarding 02-26-2016 04:25 PM Post)

I must say that the drum sander took away the dread of flattening panel glue-ups. It still takes some time, but nowhere near the time or effort to flatten the glue-ups the old fashioned way by hand way. It is a tool I recommend if you have the budget and the space.

No doubt, the better the dust collection, the better the finished product, the longer the sand paper will last, and the less dust floating around the shop. But a high powered duct collector is not a requirement, but a dust collector outfitted with a separator would be good – too keep the filter from clogging. I used the Woodmaster 38” single drum sand with a 1/2 hp dust collection with a shop built cyclone for about 5 years. The dust collector got most of the dust, but I did brush off the dust from the surface of the stock before sending it through the drum sander again. I believe keeping dust off the panel prolongs paper life and yields better and faster results. Sure it slows the sanding operation, but it is still way easier and faster than the old fashioned way.

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ous

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#11 posted 02-27-2016 04:46 PM

I agree with Chiseler. If you can afford a wide belt sander and have a dust collection system to handle the dust it is the way to go. It is easy to change belts to any grit you want where with a drum sander you are pretty much stuck with one grit unless you go to a lot of work. Another thing I like about a belt sander is when the belts become loaded I put them in a barrel of water let them soak and the wash them with a pressure washer and reuse them. I use a lot of sanding sealer on wanes coating and other work. I let it get very dry and then use a loaded 180 belt as a buffer belt and the work comes out very smooth ready for other final finishes. I am 92 and have had my wide belt sander for years. No more aching joints from hand belt sanders.

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#12 posted 02-28-2016 04:56 PM

I bought a used Woodmaster 3875 in 2005. I used it daily in my cabinet shop/woodworking business till I retired in 2015. I loved this machine and as I was downsizing from my 3000 sq.ft.shop to my current 900 sq. ft. shop I starting selling some of my larger machines and the WM was one of them. Now that my new retirement shop is fully functional I sure miss my sander. My sander ran flawlessly for yrs and I sold it to another shop and they still use it. Customer service at woodmaster tools is great.
I cant say much about grizzly sanders, but I am going to purchase the Woodmaster 26” model for my smaller shop.
It’s not a wide belt but once you get used to these machines they are well worth the money.
I highly recommend the variable speed feed for the belt.
Good luck with this.

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#13 posted 02-28-2016 09:17 PM

JBrow,

Unless you’re using a sled, I’ve never been able to flatten a cupped panel with a planer or drum sander.

Drum sanders, like planers are “garbage in garbage out”.
You still have to start with a reasonably flat panel.

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JBrow

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#14 posted 02-29-2016 01:42 AM

rwe2156,

You are right, when a cupped, warped or whatever panel passes under the drum sander rollers, it will flatten the cupped panel while under the drum and then the panel springs back when it emerges – especially 3/4” and thinner panels. I probably should have said “flush-up” rather than “flatten”. I guess I just exposed my feeble understanding of English.

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#15 posted 02-29-2016 06:20 PM

I have the W2675 and am happy with it. I did consider similar Grizzly models but the woodmaster seemed like it may be better value. I’ve owned it for just about a year now and seems to run well… far better than a few other Grizzly tools I own. Don’t think you’ll go wrong with the W2675.

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