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WillTheEngineer

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02-23-2016 02:38 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question miter saw

I searched, apologizes if a current posting is already listed.

I’m looking for travel sliding 12” or 10” miter saw with enough vertical cut for ~4.5-5.5” crown, and 2×8 or 2×10 @ 45 deg.. use will be an average of about once a month, & about 1-2 house remodels a year. Not used for a living, just helping family & friends, etc…

I have a Hitachi 12” slider that’s heavy n bolted to a stand in my garage shop. Then I have a ~10yr old single bevel sliding 10” Craftsman I’ve used for taking place/travel.

The Craftsman has been rebuilt once, and it’s time to replace it, which is the miter saw I’m looking for now.

I’m favoring the 12” Dewalt DWS780 or DWS779 (no XPS light, but $399)
http://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-15-Amp-12-in-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-DWS779/206541015

Or the Makita 1016 10”..$400-475
http://www.amazon.com/Makita-LS1016L-10-Inch-Slide-Compound/dp/B0028Y4Q2O

Or the Ridgid 10” (not as good vertical capc. for crown molding)..$350
http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-10-in-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-with-Dual-Laser-Guide-MS255SR/203132245

The Dewalt 10” has good Vertical Cap for crown, but $500 (12” 779 is cheaper):
http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW717-10-Inch-Double-Bevel-Compound/dp/B001AIX5OO

Any suggestions?


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JBrow

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#1 posted 02-23-2016 03:30 PM

WillTheEngineer,

My recommendation is to get a 12” Dual Bevel Sliding Compound Mitre saw. It simply offers greater capability. The dual bevel allows for cuts without having to perform the mental gymnastics required to make compound or simple bevel cuts otherwise required on a single bevel saw. Cutting lumber face up puts any frays from the cut on the back side of the lumber. The Dual Bevel will allow lumber to be cut face up whereas the single bevel saw may require some cuts to be made with lumber face down.

While I do not own a Compound Mitre saw, I have used the Dewalt 12” Dual Bevel (but not sliding) to install ceiling planks. I have also used the Kobalt Dual bevel saw. Both seem to cut just fine and are accurate. The Kobalt Saw was mounted to the Kobalt stand which has a pair of wheels and outrigger supports for long lumber, is light weight and collapses for storage. The stand adds another $160. Both saws have a little weight about them, but not so much that moving them around is a problem.

Kobalt 12-in 15-Amp Dual Bevel Sliding Laser Compound Miter Saw ($299)
http://www.lowes.com/pd_358936-46069-SM3055LW_1z0wck8__?productId=3512781&pl=1

This web site has 105 reviews and the majority rates the saw at 4 or 5 stars.

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WillTheEngineer

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#2 posted 02-23-2016 06:50 PM


Kobalt 12-in 15-Amp Dual Bevel Sliding Laser Compound Miter Saw ($299)
http://www.lowes.com/pd_358936-46069-SM3055LW_1z0wck8__?productId=3512781&pl=1

- JBrow

JBrow, Thanks for the tip on the Kobalt…..I missed that one, and will have to add it to the list…..the last time I looked at the Kobalts, they were basically copies of the Craftsman single bevel.

I already got a great deal on a dewalt portable stand with extensions, and plan to use it.

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#3 posted 02-23-2016 07:36 PM

I have limited or no experience with some of models listed. I do have, for about 4 years maybe…the Makita 1016L. It has been a great saw. Comes with a nice blade, properly set up it will make square cuts, and 45 degree cuts with excellent precision. The soft start feature is nice. I never really turn the laser on. I have been happy with it. The DeWalts I have used in the past were nice too.

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#4 posted 02-23-2016 07:51 PM



I searched, apologizes if a current posting is already listed.

I m looking for travel sliding 12” or 10” miter saw with enough vertical cut for ~4.5-5.5” crown, and 2×8 or 2×10 @ 45 deg.. use will be an average of about once a month, & about 1-2 house remodels a year. Not used for a living, just helping family & friends, etc…

I have a Hitachi 12” slider that s heavy n bolted to a stand in my garage shop. Then I have a ~10yr old single bevel sliding 10” Craftsman I ve used for taking place/travel.

The Craftsman has been rebuilt once, and it s time to replace it, which is the miter saw I m looking for now.

I m favoring the 12” Dewalt DWS780 or DWS779 (no XPS light, but $399)
http://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-15-Amp-12-in-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-DWS779/206541015

Or the Makita 1016 10”..$400-475
http://www.amazon.com/Makita-LS1016L-10-Inch-Slide-Compound/dp/B0028Y4Q2O

Or the Ridgid 10” (not as good vertical capc. for crown molding)..$350
http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-10-in-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-with-Dual-Laser-Guide-MS255SR/203132245

The Dewalt 10” has good Vertical Cap for crown, but $500 (12” 779 is cheaper):
http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW717-10-Inch-Double-Bevel-Compound/dp/B001AIX5OO

Any suggestions?

- WillTheEngineer


That DeWalt looks like the best deal.

-- Chuck, Michigan,

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#5 posted 02-23-2016 08:09 PM

I have the Makita LS1016. As Shane said, out of the box it made square and perfect miters. I made a box with miter corners using the saw and the corners lined up perfect on the first try.

The way they did the sliders means it needs some space.

The dust collection with a shop-vac hooked up works really well, > 90% of the dust is captured.

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#6 posted 02-24-2016 04:17 AM

I have the Dewalt DWS780 – awesome saw. It is heavy, though, if you’re looking to carry it around Mine is bolted to a station.

-- Learn Relentlessly

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#7 posted 02-24-2016 05:47 AM

I did finish and trim for years . now general carpentry . Think about what you use the saw for mostly . first off my feeling is the saw stand is at least half the equation . i say put more money/attention in the stand .i still generally just take my double bevel 12” dewalt . does 90% of what i need the saw for . The sliders are heavier to carry and take up valuable floor space when being hauled around .you do own one if you did have a job requiring one so maybe you do not need another .

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#8 posted 02-24-2016 06:23 AM

I have a DeWalt DSW715 (non-slider, single bevel) that has gotten me through 2 rehab projects and still runs like new. Cut lots of baseboard and molding, 2×4’s and 6’s etc. DeWalt also has a good warranty. I don’thave experience with the other brands you mention, but I don’t think you’d be going wrong with either of the DeWalt saws on your list.

-- Ken Deboy, http://www.deboy.org

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WillTheEngineer

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#9 posted 02-24-2016 03:31 PM


Think about what you use the saw for mostly . first off my feeling is the saw stand is at least half the equation . i say put more money/attention in the stand .

i still generally just take my double bevel 12” dewalt . does 90% of what i need the saw for . The sliders are heavier to carry and take up valuable floor space when being hauled around .you do own one if you did have a job requiring one so maybe you do not need another .
- josephf

Joseph, Thanks and all very good practical points!, I already bought the Dewalt compact miter stand. It is small enough to store in my garage sofit cabinets, and has supports. The folding/wheel stands just took up too much space. Also, everything fits well under my truck bed cover. So I’m good to go for the stand.

My Hitachi slider, is bolted, weighs in the upper 60lbs, n set up…So I’m not wanting to mess with it, even on a special job/work….I’d rather just spend a little extra $ n save time on setting the shop saw back up..

I have went back-&-forth on a 12” double bevel non-slider, but am favoring one saw. I agree with you that a 12” std chop will do most of the cuts you need. However there’s been times in the past, and two I know of in the up coming year, that I’ll need a long angle cut. Some of those “field” field cuts can be done with a circular saw, but a chop saw helps you knock them out quick…..If I do come across a GREAT deal on a double bevel 12”...I may go with that. The old rule of thumb was have a 10” slider and 12” chop…

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#10 posted 02-24-2016 03:36 PM

Forgot another point on a std 12” miter saw…..sometimes you can get a longer cut by putting a 2x under your cut piece…this will let you use more of your 12” blade… Warning thought, it can be a PIA…because fineces won’t let you clamp it horizontally, and the 2x can move, also usually doesn’t support long boards.

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#11 posted 02-24-2016 03:39 PM

I have a wen for menard’s and it is a decent saw for about 100 bills.

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#12 posted 02-24-2016 08:49 PM

Also, on the Dewalt saws, I’m not for sure if the laser/cut line light is worth the extra $200, between the DWS 779 and DWS 780…..They have different blades also…but the blade will probably be replaced also…

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#13 posted 02-24-2016 10:01 PM

Understand not wanting to move that big hitachi .I owned that humungus milwaukee slider .It only made it to 3 jobs . to heavy ,to big . took up way to much space in my box truck and rarely did i want to give up all the space it took up at the jobsight . what killed me though is that it still couldn’t cut much of a miter on wide boards . I thought it would solve so many problems . I am curious what projects you have coming up that it is needed for .

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#14 posted 02-25-2016 12:14 AM

I am curious what projects you have coming up that it is needed for .

- josephf

For me…Rafters at ledger, on hip roof for patio. I always use a cordless circular saw on the ends, but once the angle is figured out, it so nice & easy to just lay the board down, n cut from the corner. 2×8 are usually needed, but patio/ porches are getting bigger 2×10 for a nice deep one….A framing square can be used, but ur marking boards, etc…

Also, pergola cross brace….only wanting four columns, so a taller cross piece is needed, n the end pieces need an angle with etched end…kind of hard to describe..

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#15 posted 02-25-2016 12:19 AM

get it .would be nice for 2×8 material . or even 4×8 . Sounds like nice projects to .

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