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becikeja

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02-22-2016 12:19 AM

Please see the attached picture.
Both of these pieces are from the same Mahogany board.
The orange board has a coat of polyurethane, the brown board has nothing on it.
I want to keep the brown color on the piece, but bring it to a high gloss. Is this even possible?
Or will the Mahogany always show the orange color when a finish is applied?
I really don’t want to use stain, but its the only thing I can think of.
I would be willing to give up the high gloss, but I do want to seal the wood. Would teak or danish oil do this without bringing out the orange?

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#1 posted 02-22-2016 12:27 AM

Lacquer comes to mind.

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#2 posted 02-22-2016 12:36 AM

use a water based finish. They generally don’t yellow the wood and allow the natural tone to remain.

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#3 posted 02-22-2016 11:29 AM

Unfortunately, I tried General Finishes Enduro-Var and Miwax Polycrylic, both water based and both brought out the orange. Even tried just mineral spirits to see what would happen, as soon as it gets wet the orange color pops out. I have not tried Lacquer, might have to give that a go.
Any other ideas?

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#4 posted 02-22-2016 02:07 PM

If you put a dark colored danish oil on, it will darken it some but it may cancel out the oranging effect. After a couple days you can put poly over the danish oil to get a high gloss sheen. I have done this several times and always had good results.

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#5 posted 02-22-2016 02:50 PM

Mahogany will get darker over time, it is like cherry that way. I don’t think there is much you can do, that is the color it gets when exposed to light.

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#6 posted 02-26-2016 07:50 PM

when you make something wet it changes the way the light reflects and bounces off of it ( called refraction index) when you are finish coating the wood, you are doing the same thing. the light does not scatter and bounce the same way it does as if it were coated.

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#7 posted 02-26-2016 10:50 PM

Possibly a satin finish would give you the look you desire.

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#8 posted 02-26-2016 11:12 PM

Clear Shellac? I’ve never actually used it, but have heard it recommended as a color neutral finish. Maybe just wax?

-Brian

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#9 posted 02-27-2016 12:06 AM

becikeja, I think you need to learn to use a color wheel. Basically, one uses various colors to neutralize the “opposite” colors on the color wheel. Here is a promo from FWW for a Jeff Jewitt DVD. I have a project coming up where the client wants a walnut slab finished to eliminate any red tones/hues. I am just starting to research this so can’t offer any specifics, but I am convinced that your answer lies in the color wheel. HTH

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becikeja

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#10 posted 02-28-2016 09:10 PM

Interesting idea. I was in the local wood store today and talked to the “finishing” expert. He suggested the color wheel as well. Hmmm interesting. He convinced me to buy some medium green dye and said that would cancel out the orange.

I will not have a chance to try this for a couple of weeks, but did buy the dye so I’ll give it a try and let you know.

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#11 posted 02-28-2016 09:41 PM

OSMO sells a product that will work, from German sort of like Shellac but uses Hard Wax as the finish.

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#12 posted 02-28-2016 10:02 PM

Another option may be to bleach it. I’ve bleached wood before but never mahogany.
Any finish will bring out the natural color.

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