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02-20-2016 11:29 PM

Topic tags/keywords: grizzly table saw 1023rl g0690 g0715p

I’ve been in the market for a new table saw for a while and have it narrowed down to Grizzly. Honestly, I’ll probably just end up getting a G0715P at $850 but if I’d really rather step up to one of the cabinet saws:
Grizzly 1023RL = $1350
Grizzly G0690 = $1525

I’m curious why the cost difference between those two that seem very similar. Any insight?


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clin

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#1 posted 02-20-2016 11:52 PM

Lot’s here on LJ with orders of magnitude more experience with TS options. But I will say this, push yourself to get the best on you can. For example, choosing between a ~$1,400 cabinet saw and a $850 (not cabinet saw) in the long run is $500-$600 that big a deal. A good TS is a foundation for a shop.

Last summer I spent 10X more than I started out expecting (new TS vs upgrading an old one). And do not regret it one bit. It’s a true joy to work with a good TS.

Spend as much as you can afford, then a little more. Or spend as much time as you can, and a little more to find a good used saw.

I’ve yet to see someone regret spending too much on a good TS.

-- Clin

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#2 posted 02-21-2016 12:01 AM

Considering how long I’ll have it, $500-600 isn’t that big of a deal. Unfortunately, I have to pay for it all up-front now. I’m just a hobbyist but I do try to do high quality work, just not a high volume of it like if I did it for a living. I realize the G0715 would work for me, but don’t mind spending a little extra to step up a bit. Just trying to decide how much or if there’s another brand I should consider. Seems like Grizzly gives the most bang for the buck.

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#3 posted 02-21-2016 01:07 AM

Buy the G0715P and put an incra fence on it.

M

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#4 posted 02-21-2016 01:35 AM

I have the 690 and if I were to buy a new saw today, I would buy the same saw. Mine is 2 years old.
I love it!
3h.p. will cut thru anything.
Good luck in your decision!

-- Steve: Franklin, WI

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#5 posted 02-21-2016 02:10 AM

JustLikeJames,

I am not sure that pursuing woodworking as a hobby means you must or should limit the money spent pursuing the hobby. Clearly your woodworking budget must be subordinate to the household budget, but if you can afford a $1600 table saw, then I why not buy it? The only reason to buy the generally lighter weight and less capable contractor saw is if constrained by the budget. The heavier cabinet saw will simply perform better.

When I looked at Grizzly’s comparison chart for two saw you mentioned, they are indeed similar in construction. The G0690 ($1525) offers greater capability including wider rip cuts and larger depth of cut. Whether slightly enhanced capability justifies the $200 price difference is a personal choice, but the extra capacity is handy when you need it.

I own a Grizzly 17” bandsaw and it has performed very well. I am sure that Grizzly table saw are good saws. However, $1600 is a lot of money, so I recommend looking into table saws made by other manufacturers. By doing this time consuming research you can be assured that you got the greatest value for the dollars you spend.

My table saw story is that in 1998 I abandoned the Craftsman 10” contractor’s saw and purchased the $2000 Powermatic 66 (5hp) table saw, the best I could afford at the time. I do woodworking as a hobby also and while I am sure it really hurt to write that check, I honestly do not remember the pain. It always has turned on, cut smoothly and accurately, never been the target of a curse word, and has never needed alignment. I have never regretted this purchase. Amortizing the saw over 18 years of trouble free use, the saw has cost $110 per year and should I retire from woodworking, I am sure I can recover a decent amount of the money I paid for the saw. With thoughtful research I am sure you will be able to say the same thing after 18 years with the table saw you end up buying.

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#6 posted 02-21-2016 03:43 AM

You guys have convinced me to at least go for better than the 715P. Maybe I’ll just save up for a while and get the G0690.

Thanks everybody.

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#7 posted 02-21-2016 04:22 AM

No matter what saw you buy, put an Incra fence on it. Instant setting to 1/32” accuracy with .002” repeatability. This bumps any saw to the next level.

(Shown with double router extensions – will fit most any saw)

You might want to invest in a digital height gauge for precise blade & router bit setting.

M

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#8 posted 02-21-2016 04:27 AM

The G0690 and G1023RL are really in a different league than the G0715P. They also have a better track record. If the extra money doesn’t cause undue hardship, there’s no question I’d go with one of the 3hp cabinet saws over a hybrid. Both will cut wood with reasonably accuracy, but every aspect of the cabinet saw, except price, has an advantage over a hybrid….much heavier duty underpinnings, cabinet mounted trunnions, more advanced drive system, more mass, larger handwheels, 50% more power, heavier fence system, less sensitive about blade selection, etc.

cabinet saw trunnions:

typical hybrid trunnions:

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#9 posted 02-21-2016 05:00 AM

I wouldn’t buy a grizzly for a couple of reasons. The first is having the expense of shipping the saw and the trouble of having to ship it back if I had problems with it. I’ve heard the service is good, but try to trouble shoot a problem over the phone is not the best way to go. Then have to wait for parts to repair it yourself. The next reason is I’ve heard a lot lately about problems about them that I didn’t hear before. But that just me, you may get the best deal from them with no problems, I’m just not able and to old to cope with big problems.
Gerald

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#10 posted 02-21-2016 05:14 AM


Considering how long I ll have it, $500-600 isn t that big of a deal. Unfortunately, I have to pay for it all up-front now. I m just a hobbyist but I do try to do high quality work, just not a high volume of it like if I did it for a living. I realize the G0715 would work for me, but don t mind spending a little extra to step up a bit. Just trying to decide how much or if there s another brand I should consider. Seems like Grizzly gives the most bang for the buck.

- JustLikeJames


If the Grizzly is in the price range you want to be in then research the saw and if it does what you want then buy it. It doesn’t take an expensive saw to get good results, it just needs to give results you require and expect.

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JackDuren

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#11 posted 02-21-2016 05:25 AM


No matter what saw you buy, put an Incra fence on it. Instant setting to 1/32” accuracy with .002” repeatability. This bumps any saw to the next level.

(Shown with double router extensions – will fit most any saw)

You might want to invest in a digital height gauge for precise blade & router bit setting.

M

- MadMark

.......

I knew I should have bought an Incra instead of a razor…

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#12 posted 02-21-2016 05:51 AM



I wouldn t buy a grizzly for a couple of reasons. The first is having the expense of shipping the saw and the trouble of having to ship it back if I had problems with it. I ve heard the service is good, but try to trouble shoot a problem over the phone is not the best way to go. Then have to wait for parts to repair it yourself. The next reason is I ve heard a lot lately about problems about them that I didn t hear before. But that just me, you may get the best deal from them with no problems, I m just not able and to old to cope with big problems.
Gerald

- alittleoff


I ve been in the market for a new table saw for a while and have it narrowed down to Grizzly. Honestly, I ll probably just end up getting a G0715P at $850 but if I d really rather step up to one of the cabinet saws:
Grizzly 1023RL = $1350
Grizzly G0690 = $1525

I m curious why the cost difference between those two that seem very similar. Any insight?

- JustLikeJames


G0690 is a bigger saw.

-- It's nice!

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#13 posted 02-21-2016 05:57 AM

cabinet saw. The beefiness it exudes is well worth it.

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#14 posted 02-21-2016 06:07 AM

One of the reasons I went with Grizzly hybrid not with a cabinet saw is that my local authority wanted a chunk of that money too in the form of outrageous fees for a permit to pull a 3’ piece of wire from the breaker box into the garage. Think about it if you do not have 220V.

-- It's nice!

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#15 posted 02-21-2016 06:08 AM

I have the 1023RLW, bought in 2014, and I’ve had the top off twice for repairs.
Once because the factory neglected to install set screws in the pulley keyway, and
another to replace the crap $2 arbor bearing that went bad in 18 months of weekend
usage.

That said, I’d buy the saw again. Bang for the buck on a new saw it can’t be beat.
And doing the repairs has afforded me an opportunity to know my saw in ways that I
wouldn’t have otherwise. And it’s a machine that’s designed to be repaired. There’s
nothing on it that can’t be fixed if it breaks.

I would NOT however buy a hybrid saw as it’s a pain the ass enough to recalibrate
the table top, I can’t imaging trying to do that with the motor mounted to the table.

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