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Forum topic by MsDebbieP posted 02-05-2007 03:18 PM 1789 views 0 times favorited 27 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-05-2007 03:18 PM

one of the (many) interesting tools that we saw at Busy Bee Tools was a router table that tilted. That’s the first one I had ever seen like that so it was fascinating to me. Although i have yet to use a router table I can image that this tilting (45 degree angle) would assist in keeping an eye on your work while relieving back strain etc.

The sales person said that people who had purchased the table say that they are great. Sales pitch? Don’t know. It looked like it would be great, though.

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)


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#1 posted 02-05-2007 05:50 PM

Debbie
The reason for the tilting table is for making adjustments only. I mounted my table so I could tilt it.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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#2 posted 02-05-2007 08:16 PM

that’s too bad. It looked too sturdy for just adjustments though… oh well—an invention waiting to happen!

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#3 posted 02-05-2007 09:43 PM

It may be dangerous, not working on a flat table. The thing to do is have your table height high enough so you don’t have to hunch over.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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#4 posted 02-05-2007 11:57 PM

whenever I get our router table problem fixed I’ll try and figure out what that height is for me!!

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#5 posted 02-06-2007 12:46 AM

Debbie, like Dick, I think the reference to a tilting table is that the table tilts up to allow you to reach under the table easily. I believe the adjustments Dick is referring to is the need to raise and lower the router in order to adjust the distance the router bit protrudes above the table. The other purpose in a tilting table is to make it easier to use the wrenches to remove the router bit from the collet.

However, if you haven’t yet purchased either a router or table, my recommendation would be to buy a router that doesn’t require you to reach under the table to perform these two functions.

With the Triton, MOF001KC 2 1/4hp router, reviewed here, this would not be necessary. This router is ideal for either below table use, or hand held use. In the table, it can be raised/lowered from above the table and the router bits can also be changed from the above-table position.

-- CanuckDon "I just love small wooden boxes!" http://www.dpb-photos.com/

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#6 posted 02-06-2007 01:25 AM

Right on!! Don,
I’ve been shopping the internet for the Triton 2 1/4, or 3 1/4 routers. So far I found the best price at Woodcraft. I’m still undecided about which size. There’s only about $ 5.00 difference, the large one is $ 214.00. I think the larger one is winning though.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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#7 posted 02-06-2007 05:01 AM

Dick, that’s the one I own.

Based on feedback from Australian users, I haven’t spoken to anyone that disklikes the large one for in-table use, and most feel it’s a good free-had router as well. However, some find it a little too large for free-hand use. I believe that’s exactly why Triton introduced the smaller version. Talking with the marketing manager of Triton there is a trend in the USA away from larger routers and Triton felt it necessary to bring out the smaller one to address this trend.

However, I have no trouble with this router in either mode, but the convenience of leaving it in the table and using a second router that I already owned out of the table is the way I tend to operate.

One of the very nice features of either unit is the soft-start. Frankly, without it the larger unit would be a beast.

-- CanuckDon "I just love small wooden boxes!" http://www.dpb-photos.com/

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#8 posted 02-06-2007 05:43 AM

Thanks Don.
Weight has never been a concern for me, I think it makes it more stable, besides I think I’m putting this in the table, & use my Dewalt for hand use. The only advantage 2 1/4 has is above table adjustments. I can live without that.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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#9 posted 02-06-2007 07:04 AM

Quote Dick: ”The only advantage 2 1/4 has is above table adjustments. I can live without that.”

Yes, Dick you can – until you have one, that is; and thats where the Router Raizer comes in. It’s well worth the money.

-- CanuckDon "I just love small wooden boxes!" http://www.dpb-photos.com/

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#10 posted 02-06-2007 04:19 PM

Quote Don: ”The primary advantage of the R.R. is that it easily facilitates micro adjustments from a standing position when your view-point is directly above, or adjacent to, the router bit. No more down on your haunches under the table. With the handle installed above the table, it takes no time to crank the router bit its full travel distance by simply twirling the crank handle with ones thumb”.

Don, With my tilt table, I don’t have to bend over as much when adjusting the bit height . Also the piano hinge was a lot cheaper. LOL

Debbie, I’d like to apologize for Don, & I for taking over this forum, but maybe this stuff will help you.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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#11 posted 02-07-2007 01:08 AM

no need to apologize – that’s what this is here for, right?? My 2cents + your 2 cents plus someone else’s and before you know it we have a WEALTH of knowledge!!
I now have a lot of things to think about if we invest in yet another router (and table)

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#12 posted 02-26-2007 07:08 PM

One thing to do if you buy a router table (instead of build one) is to make sure it will fit your router. I have a Sears router table, which fits Sears routers but not others. Luckily, my dad has a Sears router, so that works out fine. My DeWalt has different spacing. That means I need to get an adapter, or make my own plate to fit the table.

Another thing about the table is you can not lift the router through the table, as the opening is too small. You can change the bits through the plate, but not lift out the entire assembly. This is a pain if you want to route something freehand instead of on the table. Oh well, live and learn.

Someone sent me a set of plans for a vertical and horizontal table all in one. I think it was Obi, so you might ask him. The plans were simple, but the extra functionality looks great. It is on my to build list for this year.

-- Bill, Turlock California, http://www.brookswoodworks.com

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#13 posted 02-26-2007 07:24 PM

Yes, we are still struggling with the router issue and we have yet to get one functioning. We’ve already discovered the Sears problem (grrrrr) and after we bought a univeral plate we found that it doesn’t fit either!!!
Rick’s still not comfortable with the router itself and prefers his older model…
So, I’m calling it a lesson learned and we are going to look for a new router/router table that fits our needs.
Not sure what all we are going to be looking for, but it is interesting. Here’s what I’ve gathered so far from the LumberJocks.
1. change the bit from above. (yah… that will be good!)
2. can lift the router out through the hole to (we do have the old router for handheld stuff, but what happens when it dies and we then only have the table router?? We will then want to take it out of the table!!)
3. Change the height from above (I like that feature, Don)

what else should I be looking for?

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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#14 posted 02-26-2007 07:36 PM

You might want to consider a router that can go into interchangeable bases, like the Bosch 1617EVP. It comes with a fixed base and a plunge base and you can also get an undermount base for it (with above-table height adjustment). If you want to go from using it hand-held to using it in the table, all you need to do is flip a latch and slide it out of the one base and then slide it into the undermount base and tighten it back in with another flip of a latch.

Something to consider.

-- Ethan, http://thekiltedwoodworker.com

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#15 posted 02-26-2007 07:39 PM

You’ll have to be lazy like me. Buy 5 routers. LOL

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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