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Forum topic by SueNH posted 02-16-2010 10:23 PM 1326 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-16-2010 10:23 PM

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I currently have a DeWalt 735 which I find to be terrific machine. However, with that said, I need a wider planer for some of my work. I’m looking at 20” models and the Grizzly has several with the spiral heads that look to be a reasonable price. Most of my tools are Powermatic, but I have a General 24 dual drum sander and it works great. So, if I were to go to a 20” planer and didn’t want to spring the $$$$$’s for a Powermatic, what would you pros suggest?

Thanks

Sue in NH


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#1 posted 02-16-2010 10:34 PM

I probably don’t qualify as a pro, yet anyway. I too have been very tempted by the 20” grizzly spiral head but at around 2400.00 it is outside of our budget at this time. We recently upgraded to a 15” jet that I am sure will serve us well for the next year or so until our budget allows for the sprial head cutter. In my opinion though, as a cabinet builder building kitchens, it is very very rare to come across any panel that is going to be larger then 15”. We did do a couple recent solid wood tops that were wider then 15”, one was 25”. I just ran these tops through our drum sander which worked like a charm. Even at 25” though, one could do 2 12.5 glue ups, run through the planer and then glue them together and have just one seem to sand in the wide drum sander.

If you do your calculations you likely would find very few cabinet doors will ever have a panel larger then 15” and if a door is fairly wide, like on an entertainment center, the styles can be made a little wider in order to maintain a panel less then 15” wide. So, when we have the budget, I am going to sell our 15” jet and spring for a 15” spiral head brand new planer. Figure they cost 1500.00 and I could sell our Jet for about 500 or so, we would only need a spare grand laying around the shop to make up the difference.

Just my 2 cents.

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#2 posted 02-16-2010 10:39 PM

Thanks for the input! Table tops are my greatest concern for over 15”, but with a 20” model, I would still have to do two panels with a glue-up so the 15” sounds like a solution to consider. Do you like the Grizzly brand?

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#3 posted 02-16-2010 11:04 PM

Oh yeah. I don’t have a lot of experience with grizzly but I have never really heard anything bad about Grizzly. I bought our 3 hp grizzly shaper about 2 years ago or so new and it runs great. My friend has a powermatic 3 hp shaper, of course he spent 2 1/2 times what I did, and his powermatic is much nicer then my Grizzly but my shaper still puts out a great product and works without any problems. We also have a 2 hp Grizzly dust collector that I never have any problems with. No complaints here, it seems they put out a great product.

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#4 posted 02-16-2010 11:21 PM

The other thing to consider is how much motor you might need. Myself, I am not sure an extra 1000.00 is worth 5” more and a 5 hp motor as opposed to the 3 hp motor. I will have a better evaluation of the 3 hp motor on a 15” planer in about a year from now.

I am sure others might have more input on the motor size.

I will say, we have a 3 hp 26” drum sander and for one reason or another, our unit will shut down when running a 25” wide top. The shut down is usually on the last pass or so when all of the high spots are already sanded down and the full width of the drum is making contact with the wood. The shut down is due to the switch shutting the motor off, some sort of safety valve built into the magnetic switch. I then let it cool down for about 5 minutes and I am back up and running.

With this in mind, I am not sure if the 3 hp motor is the weak link or maybe my switch or just something all different. I do feel if my drum sander were a 5 hp I might not have this problem. This problem only happens extremely rare, just when sanding a 20” plus wide table top. Wide doors do not create problems because they are not that long like a table top.

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#5 posted 02-17-2010 08:36 PM

Hello,
I have a Delta 15” X5 planer. I upgraded this 3hp planer with the Byrd helix spiral cutterhead. The difference is amazing. Much quieter than the blades. I have a Grizzly sharpener (like a tormek) and it was very difficult to sharpen the 15” blades. This was another reason for the spiral cutterhead. I agree with the poster above about not needing anything wider than 15” but you know what you need. I highly recommend you consider the spiral and waiting to get the funds to get this option on the machine you chose. If you nic the blade on a conventional cutterhead, you must sharpen and replace all 3 or 4 blades. Having a second set of blades does save on downtime but you still have to have the others resharpened. Also, much easier to unscrew, rotate, retighted screw on a few bad blades than changing and aligning conventional blades.
Hope this info helps

-- Rich, Columbus, Ohio

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#6 posted 03-04-2010 04:56 PM

Thanks for all the replies. I’ve been looking around at different models and it seems as though the spiral head adds cost, but it’s well worth the difference. I have a spiral on my jointer and LOVE it, so I guess I’ll hold out for a spiral planer, too.

SueNH

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