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Woodchuck2010

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02-18-2016 07:31 PM

I just finished assembling my Harbor Freight dust collector. I was actually surprised at the fit and finish as it was so cheap. The store had a green one on display. I thought that was the only color it came in. Mine is a charcoal gray. Went together quite easily. I think it’ll work well when I finally finish up the shop.

-- Chuck, Michigan,


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#1 posted 02-18-2016 07:36 PM

I guess going from Powermatic to Harbor Freight is kind of frustrating. Did you request HF to replace the scratched wheels on the dust collector ? :-)

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#2 posted 02-18-2016 07:41 PM

Good Purchase.

I waited 6 months to modify mine by adding a separator underneath the motor. It’s cheap and easy. After I did it, I felt stupid for not doing it sooner. Just an FYI.

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#3 posted 02-18-2016 07:50 PM



I guess going from Powermatic to Harbor Freight is kind of frustrating. Did you request HF to replace the scratched wheels on the dust collector ? :-)

- 716

Hehe. Good one. It was actually perfect! Imagine that!!!

-- Chuck, Michigan,

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#4 posted 02-18-2016 07:51 PM



Good Purchase.

I waited 6 months to modify mine by adding a separator underneath the motor. It s cheap and easy. After I did it, I felt stupid for not doing it sooner. Just an FYI.

- Brian


Do you have a pic of your setup?

-- Chuck, Michigan,

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#5 posted 02-18-2016 08:03 PM

I can’t find a picture right now, but I’ll try to remember to take one tonight. I just built a new mobile base with a wooden side that is about 5’ tall, and mounted the motor to it. Didn’t have to redo any of the actual components. It allowed me to put a trash can underneath the motor with those $30 separator attachments from Rockler on the lid. I haven’t dumped my bag since. I just dump the trash can when it fills up. Fun saturday morning project that had me cursing every time i’ve had to dump that plastic bag.

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#6 posted 02-18-2016 08:08 PM



I can t find a picture right now, but I ll try to remember to take one tonight. I just built a new mobile base with a wooden side that is about 5 tall, and mounted the motor to it. Didn t have to redo any of the actual components. It allowed me to put a trash can underneath the motor with those $30 separator attachments from Rockler on the lid. I haven t dumped my bag since. I just dump the trash can when it fills up. Fun saturday morning project that had me cursing every time i ve had to dump that plastic bag.

- Brian

Yeah, dumping that bag would be a hassle. Send a pic when you get a chance. Thanks. You’re actually helpful!

-- Chuck, Michigan,

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#7 posted 02-18-2016 08:10 PM

There’s a few of us on here that aren’t just trolling. We just don’t tend to comment as often it seems.

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#8 posted 02-18-2016 08:15 PM



I can t find a picture right now, but I ll try to remember to take one tonight. I just built a new mobile base with a wooden side that is about 5 tall, and mounted the motor to it. Didn t have to redo any of the actual components. It allowed me to put a trash can underneath the motor with those $30 separator attachments from Rockler on the lid. I haven t dumped my bag since. I just dump the trash can when it fills up. Fun saturday morning project that had me cursing every time i ve had to dump that plastic bag.

- Brian

sounds like a great idea!!!

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#9 posted 02-18-2016 08:57 PM

BEFORE you get into better separation or easier emptying of a plastic bag, please invest in a Wynn (or other) .5 micron canister filter. The bag just doesn’t do an adequate job of filtering the fine dust. Unless you always wear a respirator, you need to improve the filter.

The separator makes it easier to empty chips. Nice, but not essential. It robs the system of suction, bad, but not really enough to not do it if it really bugs you how often you have to empty the bag. It’s not worth it to me, but I have the filter.

Use a short piece of flex duct, or hard pipe it with S&D plastic pipe. If the latter, use two 45s and a short piece of straight pipe instead of a 90, and use blast gates.

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#10 posted 02-18-2016 09:08 PM

I had a cheap separator on my previous dust collector, and I agree, it ruined the suction. However, my new setup has experienced no noticeable loss in suction at all. I was prepared for some but haven’t had to deal with it. I think a lot of it has to do with the separator being 12” away from the motor.

Wynn Filters are for sure worth the money but will obviously be a larger investment.

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#11 posted 02-18-2016 10:00 PM

The trashcan lid type seem to have less of a pressure drop than the home made Thiene (spelling?) baffles. I have the woodcraft can lid and didn’t notice any drop in air flow.

Another thing to note, when you go to a Wynn filter, it will actually have less resistance to airflow than the bag (it provides a much larger surface area for the air to escape through, therefore making it easier for the air to escape). This means you will get MORE air flow. If you do not add a blast gate, you may find yourself overamping the motor, causing it to have problems. So add a blast gate you can pinch back when you make the change. Depending on what I hook mine up to, it will have such a high inrush flow on start up that it will trip the breaker (over-amping) if I don’t cut the blast gate back a bit. The trashcan lid, if it adds noticable resistance, helps offset this, but it is better to have the gate as well.

-Brian

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#12 posted 02-18-2016 10:07 PM

I’ve had mine for several years now, not a problem with it, I did how ever remove the cross guard at the intake.

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#13 posted 02-18-2016 10:22 PM



BEFORE you get into better separation or easier emptying of a plastic bag, please invest in a Wynn (or other) .5 micron canister filter. The bag just doesn t do an adequate job of filtering the fine dust. Unless you always wear a respirator, you need to improve the filter.

The separator makes it easier to empty chips. Nice, but not essential. It robs the system of suction, bad, but not really enough to not do it if it really bugs you how often you have to empty the bag. It s not worth it to me, but I have the filter.

Use a short piece of flex duct, or hard pipe it with S&D plastic pipe. If the latter, use two 45s and a short piece of straight pipe instead of a 90, and use blast gates.

- brtech


I was going to buy the filter, but after shipping it was $196!!! I emptied my cart. I bought the Powertec 1 micron filter bag for now. Maybe I’ll get the Wynn later.

-- Chuck, Michigan,

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#14 posted 02-18-2016 11:02 PM

Congrats on your HF collector purchase…..To possibly help you with any future modifications I’ve posted mine below…..I built a Thien baffle, a trash can separator, and added a Wynn filter….I went with Rockler Dust Right fittings and hose and a PSI Long Range remote control…. It all rides on a mobile base (also a Harbor Freight product) with a foot print of about 2’ x 4’.....After about two years with this set up I still have no issues…..Search the LJ site, as a lot of us have done similar upgrades…..
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#15 posted 02-19-2016 12:10 AM

man woodchuck you are putting a wood shop together quick, be sure to check for leaks on your new dust collector. i bought the same one you have recently while they were on sale. after assembly i sucked up an tablespoon of flour and it revealed just how tight china tolerances are.

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