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02-16-2010 08:46 PM

Well, I provided my customer with tandem under mount soft close drawer glides for this kitchen. This is a first for me since we typically use KV side mount soft close. When using the KV side mount soft close glide, the drawer needs to be built close to perfect with maybe 1/32 +/- tolerance or the soft close feature does not work well.

So my experience with these tandom slides, I used 5/8” side material. The instructions stated opening minus 23/32” or 17 mm. I am not set up with metric and best I could tell 23/32 converted closest to just over 5/8”. So I experimented with a drawer to start. I needed to make some adjustments to the underside of the drawer because the drawer was not built wide enough. The underside adjustment was easy and not even visible by any person opening the drawer and so the drawer was usable and no need to rebuild. I subtracted 3/16” on the next box and just a slight adjustment of maybe 1/16” was required to the underside of the drawer box, again not anything major or visible. So at this time I built my drawer boxes opening minus 3/8” to 7/16” and the drawers work great.

These drawer glides work far better then anything I have ever used. When customers ask for soft close I typically pay 13.00 a pair for the KV side mount and I do not look forward to the process because a lot of adjustments tend to happen in order to get all of the drawers to work smoothly while letting the soft close feature to work really well. There seems to be less effort using the tandem glides with excellent results. I can actually push the drawer shut very gently with one finger and the forward momentum will just glide slowly until it latches onto the piston which then carries the drawer into place softly. Also the drawer appears to be floating in air since the glides are not seen.

Any time in the future customers want soft close I am selling them the tandom glides, no question. I will say though, if soft close is not requested, the KV TT 100 glides are very hard to beat in price and quality since we pay about 5.00 per pair for those glides. That is just a great price for the KV TT 100 glide.

Thanks for reading. Jerry

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#1 posted 02-16-2010 08:57 PM

When I mention 3/16” I mean I built the next drawer 3/16” wider.

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#2 posted 02-16-2010 09:33 PM

I feel the tandems are the way to go for handcrafted custom cabinetry. I have been factoring the softclose with 5/8” maple dovetails drawers in all my estimates for the last 3 years. There isn’t even an option. It is my philosophy that when I build a customer true handcrafted cabinetry, that since I am building cabinets nicer than you can buy at the store, the nicest hardware available is a given. Plus, since I use only one type of slide and one type of door hinge, there is less error due to rethinking how to install hardware. Built one nice set of jigs and its off to the races. Got a slick one for lining up the applied fronts, let me know if you want me to send you a pic.

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#3 posted 02-16-2010 10:01 PM

Thanks for that input Rhett. I agree and want to provide my customer with the highest quality possible and I feel “Wow” when I used these Tandem glides. Nothing smoother then those things. For an average kitchen those glides can get spendy though. I only used those glides on drawers with drawer faces. We provide pull out drawers inside our base cabinets and for those I use a simple KV TT 100 glide which I feel more then adequate.

Please send me any pics that you can that will help me out in the future.

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#4 posted 02-17-2010 12:22 AM

I would appreciate if either of you could post some pictures of the glides so I know what your talking about. If there even available in Canada. I find all these cool products, only to find out I can’t get them locally. The duties and freight to get items up here is ridiculous. Thanks for sharing.

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#5 posted 02-17-2010 12:44 AM

Hey Bruce,

I am actually not sure about posting a pic on this forum since I do not know how. Just google “blum tandem drawer slides with blumotion” and you will find exactly what I am talking about. I believe these glides have been around for a while, not sure how long but I have heard about them a lot. I buy most of my hardware locally so maybe your hardwood suppliers in your local area carries them. If not, I often buy from www.hdlusa.com and they are based out of Minnesota and they offer great prices and fast shipping. But coming from MN you may have those extra charges to Canada you are talking about. If you get your hands on some of those glides, they are relatively expensive at 20.00 per pair but well worth the money for a soft close option.

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#6 posted 02-17-2010 01:08 AM

Wow you get a great price on those i paid almost $47 US per drawer for blumotion drawer slides on a kitchen i recently did and have still not finished. What does the KV stand for so i can look or those to use in the next kitchen?

Thanks

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#7 posted 02-17-2010 01:35 AM

Bluchz, if you go to www.hdlusa.com you can get approved to be an authorized buyer with HDL. They give wholesale prices for kitchen accessories/hardware. Sounds like you are paying retail. The KV is the name of the manufacturer of the glides I have used most of the time, K stands for Knape and V stands for Vogt. Knape and Vogt company, maker of cabinet slides/glides among other things. HDL has an approval process but there should be no problem with getting an approval. I think they are looking for the buyer who is in the business and will be buying on a regular basis and not the retail customer who will buy one time only.

If you hunt around you should find whole sale dealers for cabinet hardware/supplies in your local area. Louis and Company is another source. I am able to buy a lot of these things through local sources but if no local source exist, use HDL.

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#8 posted 02-17-2010 02:53 PM

Thanks for the information, I’ll check them out

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#10 posted 03-30-2010 12:32 AM

I just paid 3 zillion dollars for my blum’s… sigh.

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