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rwe2156

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02-18-2016 01:13 PM

So what’s your opinion on Apple’s refusal to the FBI?

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!


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#1 posted 02-18-2016 03:01 PM

I think Apple should do all they can to assist in cases like this while also maintaining any proprietary information about how it was done. Send or take the phone to Apple and let them do the cracking and hand back the data and the locked phone.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#2 posted 02-18-2016 03:12 PM

I would hope that they could quietly hack the phone and loudly yell how bad it is to allow a backdoor into the OS.

I am a little surprised that the NSA has not already done this for Apple. Maybe they have?

-- Chris K

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#3 posted 02-18-2016 05:16 PM

I’m lost. Fill me in.

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#4 posted 02-18-2016 05:21 PM

I find it interesting that Americans are so adamant about their right to own guns without the government having any sort of interference but are so willing to give up their right to privacy in technology. Lets pretend for a moment that instead of asking for a phone to be hacked what if the government was asking a gun manufacturer to hack one of those guns that can only be fired by a specific user (using fingerprints or whatever). Would you be willing to give the government the ability to hack all those guns? The same principal is at stake.

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#5 posted 02-18-2016 05:27 PM



I m lost. Fill me in.

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#6 posted 02-18-2016 05:40 PM

Huh.

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#7 posted 02-18-2016 05:40 PM

I believe in the right to privacy but….there are limits.

This is a clear cut case of terrorism and not a wild hunt. I think Apple should find a way in this case of helping.

By the way, the FBI can snoop my phone and it will be very boring.

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#8 posted 02-18-2016 05:42 PM

Slippery slope

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#9 posted 02-18-2016 06:09 PM

There’s a difference between helping out “in this case” and essentially building a key that’s capable of unlocking any iPhone physically in one’s possession. Slippery slope, indeed, and, given recent transgressions, I’m not willing to give the benefit of doubt that it’ll be used judiciously.

-- Practice makes less sucky. (Bill, Minneapolis, MN)

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#10 posted 02-18-2016 09:18 PM



There s a difference between helping out “in this case” and essentially building a key that s capable of unlocking any iPhone physically in one s possession. Slippery slope, indeed, and, given recent transgressions, I m not willing to give the benefit of doubt that it ll be used judiciously.

- WillliamMSP


Yup, get a court order then apple can give the data back…they have done so 70 times all ready.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#11 posted 02-18-2016 09:21 PM



I find it interesting that Americans are so adamant about their right to own guns without the government having any sort of interference but are so willing to give up their right to privacy in technology. Lets pretend for a moment that instead of asking for a phone to be hacked what if the government was asking a gun manufacturer to hack one of those guns that can only be fired by a specific user (using fingerprints or whatever). Would you be willing to give the government the ability to hack all those guns? The same principal is at stake.

- JADobson


If you are worried about guns tech privacy isn’t as important, if you don’t need to worry about guns maybe tech security is more important. I can’t see the equivalency though, there is no guarantee/right to privacy.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#12 posted 02-18-2016 11:53 PM

You tech guys correct me if I’m oversimplifying but here’s what I think:

Apple sends a tech guy to Quantico puts him at a dedicated computer he removes the self destruct function off the phone. Any data related to this (CD, computer hard drive) are destroyed in front of witnesses, hell, in front of Cook himself if he’s so worried about it.

Then you put the poor SOB into witness protection I guess.

He says privacy is a matter of life and death, but what if the info on that phone could save 100’s of lives?

This is ONE phone all they are asking is what anybody could walk in to an Apple store and have done to their own phone.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#13 posted 02-19-2016 12:33 AM

There’s a difference between asking them to crack one phone and asking them to write an OS so that any phone in possession could be “updated” and so render it unsecured.

-- Practice makes less sucky. (Bill, Minneapolis, MN)

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#14 posted 02-19-2016 01:35 AM

I agree Bill. Lets try to keep the few (and dwindling) rights we have left. Quite frankly, given the recent press on police activity, I don’t trust those guys at all. Never did actually. Stay strong Apple.

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#15 posted 02-19-2016 02:42 AM

Hopefully they won’t follow Microsofts lead.

Cheers,
Brad

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