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Forum topic by DW833 posted 02-18-2016 01:40 AM 670 views 1 time favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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DW833

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02-18-2016 01:40 AM

Topic tags/keywords: stanley 80 cabinet scraper

I purchased a Stanley #80 cabinet scraper. To flatten the sole, I marked it with a marker, and started with a course diamond stone. After using on the stone , noticed the sole is not flat around the edges.
The marks remained around the edges making the sole higher in the center.

The difference is uniform around the edges. Held a square to the front of the sole and noticed there is gap on each side that is the same. Almost like it was machined that way. Similar to someone placing a curved grind on a hand plane iron.

I assumed that the sole should be entirely flat. Is that true for a cabinet scraper?


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chrisstef

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#1 posted 02-18-2016 02:02 AM

I dunno tge right answer but id sharpen the blade and see how it worked. Its flat around the mouth and thats what counts imo. Theres a good bit of surface area there.

-- rock, chalk, jayhawk

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#2 posted 02-18-2016 02:03 AM

No a scraper does not need to be dead flat. it is for smoothing not flattening.

-- James Wright, Rockford IL, https://www.youtube.com/c/WoodWright

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Tim

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#3 posted 02-18-2016 02:41 AM

Watch Paul Sellers’ video on flattening plane soles and you’ll see after getting them flat, he softens the edges pretty much exactly like what you see there. Apparently it’s important for the performance.

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#4 posted 02-18-2016 09:18 AM

You do not need a dead flat sole for a cabinet scraper as it is not used for flattening. It is used for smoothing (as stated above)
If you really want that sole flat, don’t use a diamond stone; they are not aggressive enough for that task. Use some 80 or 100 grit sandpaper.

-- Mike

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#5 posted 02-18-2016 12:06 PM

I don’t see any need to flatten the sole. A plane sole needs to be flat because it serves as the reference for flattening boards. If you’re board isn’t already flat by the time you get to scraping, this tool isn’t the one to get it there. Think of this tool as a holder for a card scraper more than a plane.

I will point out however that even though it doesn’t need to be flat, I do think it’s important that it be polished to a fine grit. I’ve never used any kind of holder for my scrapers but I would think any kinds of burrs or gouges, even very minor ones, would be working against what the scraper is doing.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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bondogaposis

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#6 posted 02-18-2016 01:10 PM

I think it will be fine. The only way to know for sure is to use it for a while, if it works you are done.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#7 posted 02-18-2016 02:29 PM

Did it not work before starting the flattening process?

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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DW833

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#8 posted 02-18-2016 05:24 PM

I did not test it before starting restoration. Blade was in bad shape.

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#9 posted 02-18-2016 05:31 PM

I’d sharpen the blade and give it a go before messing with the sole any further. Dragging planes over sandpaper or diamond stones should be held as a near-last resort when it comes to performance issues… Mostly a curiousity, sole flattness is.

My .02, worth half of what you paid for it.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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jdh122

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#10 posted 02-18-2016 05:32 PM

Apparently no-one else does this, but I have used a cabinet scraper (a Veritas one) to level (or I guess make it look flat would be a better description) a table top, when the grain was too gnarly to handplane. Unlike a plane, the cabinet scraper levels across rather than front to back. Yours seems to be pretty flat in the dimension that matters, in other words.

-- Jeremy, in the Acadian forests

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#11 posted 02-18-2016 05:53 PM

I would leave it as it is. I use it for smoothing

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#12 posted 02-18-2016 07:57 PM

it will work just fine.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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DW833

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#13 posted 02-19-2016 01:06 AM

Thanks everyone for the assistance. Based on the comments I won’t try to completely flatten it. Instead will remove remaining scratches, sharpen blade and give it a go.

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