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anastziatas

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02-17-2016 02:26 PM

Topic tags/keywords: drill-driver chisel blade bit brace auger bits vintage old marples eggbeater footprint don auger

Hello i am new in collecting old tools so i said to share my first buy and also see what you can tell me about the tools i got(date,manufacturer,etc). Before i start i want to say that i have not yet restored them because first i just got them and second i am still researching on how to restore them. LETS START!!

I Got all of these tools together for about 30pounds! Also i edited the image adding the makers mark’s

so first i have these auger bits by W.M ridgway Also it seams that they are from a line called “power”


Then i have the Marples :)

The counter sink looks old because of the makers mark “W.Marples & Sons”but i found this catalog from 1928 and the counter sink has a different makers mark and at different place were most of the tools in the catalog have the same makers mark with my countersink.

The other ones look newer and the writing on them says “marples ridgway”

Next i have an auger bit that i dont know anything about it named “DON auger co LTD”

Then i have some footprint auger bits

So leaving back the auger bits we are going to the Eggbeater that is tiny. I have some problems with it because it has a very sticky chuck and dont know how to open it(It is a more modern chuck). Also i dont know maker or anything about it. It is orange in color.


Then i have 2 bit braces. Number 1 is nickel plated with no marks on and number 2 has a mark on the chuck but i cant make out what it says. It starts with “Manufactured by JAC…n LTD Sheffield England”

I would appreciate it if you could also tell me what you think about the jaws of the chuck

The last item is a W. Marples&Sons cast steel chisel I think i found it in the 1928 catalog. But i have a serious problem. I has a big curve. Any way to fix this?

In the end i would appreciate if you could tell me any info about the tools and tell me a thing or two about restoring them. I want to start a blog with me restoring them and sharing, learning with you guys.Thanks


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#1 posted 02-17-2016 03:14 PM

I can’t help with ID of braces or eggbeater. For the eggbeater chuck, thread it off and unscrew the piece on the back. Check to see if all springs are there. Degrease/derust everything and polish the inside of the housing and the outside of the jaws. Should be good to go.

That chisel is a keeper. It’s coming out of the handle though. I think the “curve” is just that the tang isn’t seated in the handle so it’s not sitting straight. You can try driving the handle back on. If that doesn’t fix it, it’ll need to be re-handled. Not difficult.

Pretty nice haul on the chisel and the auger bits. Eggbeater doesn’t look like much – wouldn’t put a lot of time into it. Braces are probably worth an overhaul but I can’t ID them but they look to be good quality and don’t look like they need a ton of work. Just make sure they grip the bits evenly.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#2 posted 02-17-2016 04:04 PM

I would GUESS Stanley on the brace, Millers Falls or Goodell Pratt on the egg beater.

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#3 posted 02-17-2016 04:26 PM

There’s lots of information on restoring them available here on LJ and lots of different ways to do it. Basically pick one that seems to give you the best results. Look for DonW’s blogs here or his website, or OSU55’s blogs for a different perspective.

I agree with Kenny on the above, except that chisel looks to be seated all the way, it’s just been abused so the tang and shoulder is bent. You can either work with it the way it is or try to bend it back to straight. If the handle comes off with a reasonable amount of force, that would be better, then you can bend the tang and shoulder back straight. If you can’t get the handle off, you risk cracking the handle by bending it with it on. But if the handle is too tight to remove, you will pretty much crack it if you try to remove it.

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#4 posted 02-17-2016 06:52 PM

Thank for the feedback guys. So the chisel seems to be bent from the shoulder up towards the right, and the shoulder isn’t fitted in the wood correctly.

I pried off the brass tube to see if i can remove the chisel from the wood but don’t want to go to far without reporting back to you guys. What should i do next i am afraid i could ruin the chisel. Also just received this Stanley egg beater. Little bit of tlc and it will be back in order.

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#5 posted 02-17-2016 06:59 PM

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#6 posted 02-17-2016 07:07 PM

You may ruin the handle, you aren’t going to ruin the chisel. My advice, if you want to save the handle it’s in, is to try and straighten it from the shoulder and leave what’s in the handle alone. You can try holding the chisel in a vise and bending it straight but depending on how the steel was tempered, you may or may not be able to do so. If not, you’re going to have to heat the area you need to bend with a torch until it turns red then bend it. Doing so may anneal the steel to the point it can’t be struck without bending though. In which case, you’ll have to take it out of the handle and temper it.

So, if you want to keep the handle, do your best to bend it “straight enough”.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#7 posted 02-17-2016 07:14 PM

I think i will try to cold forge it strait. Is there a possibility it could snap? I would put it in my forge but i am a rookie and the last time i tried to heat treat something (machete) it went horribly bad.

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#8 posted 02-17-2016 08:39 PM

That doesn’t look like much of a twist, to me anyways. If you lap the back of it when you sharpen you’ll always have a flat cutting edge. Will take you years and years to use that chisel up.

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#9 posted 02-18-2016 05:47 AM

I don’t see anything rare or especially valuable so don’t be too delicate in cleaning things up. Wire wheels make quick work of rust and general corrosion, but don’t use a wire wheel on the cutting edges (especially on auger bits). Degreaser and a toothbrush will go a long way toward dirt and grime. I like the Home Depot brand (HQX) citrus degreaser but it will remove paint if left on for more than half a minute. Sandpaper glued to mdf is great for flat surfaces on hand planes, rulers, squares, chisels, etc. (start with 320 for moderate rust, 220 for heavier rust) Engraving, stamps, or etching that is difficult to read may become much clearer once you hit it with wire wheel, and may uncover text you didn’t know was there. Evaporust or white vinegar is slow but steady rust remover. Toilet bowl cleaner (muriatic acid, HCL) is a much more aggressive rust remover. Electrolysis is slow but easy for intricate or lots of parts. But 90% of my de-rusting and cleanup is done on the wire wheel of my grinder.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#10 posted 02-18-2016 12:50 PM



I think i will try to cold forge it strait. Is there a possibility it could snap? I would put it in my forge but i am a rookie and the last time i tried to heat treat something (machete) it went horribly bad.

- anastziatas

Always a possibility it can snap. However, in general, I’ve found cast steel to be pretty malleable. Chances are the business end of the chisel was hardened but the tang end may not have been. Like I said, I think the biggest risk is breaking the handle. If you can support the steel on either side of the bend so there’s no stress on the wood, that’s your best bet.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#11 posted 02-18-2016 08:01 PM

look through WayneC’s blogs (like this one http://lumberjocks.com/WayneC/blog/38126) for the braces.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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