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02-17-2016 02:26 PM

Topic tags/keywords: table saw

Hello all long time lurker of the jock halls but finally getting serious about my passion for woodworking. I want to start off with a decent table saw as my first major purchase/purchases. Have between a $600ish budget but willing to go up to $800 if I can talk the wife into it haha. Been looking at the Delta 36-725, the Rigid R4512 and the Craftsman 21833. All seem pretty similar and all seem to have pros and cons but seem to have the kinks mostly worked out. Also was comparing the Deta 36-725 and Delta 36-5000 and it seems that the major difference is that the 36-5000 is a 15 amp and has large table wings. Now is the 15 amp opposed to the 13 amp of the 36-725 worth the $200 difference? Right now I have a Ryobi rts21 that I got at a garage sale for $50 that was basically brand new and put a Diablo blade on it that cost more then the saw haha so anything will be an instant upgrade as far as function and features go. Would love to explore different recommendations from you all from different manufacturers or brands.

Thanks.

Stephen


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#1 posted 02-17-2016 02:35 PM

I don’t have a table saw, but I’ve been reading up on options for a long time. It seems the Delta 36-725 is the best “bang for your buck” you’ll get for a new saw in the $600 range, based on what I’ve read about them. They supposedly have the best fence you’ll find on a new contractor saw today. Don’t judge the saw by what you see on display at Lowe’s, the people there don’t know how to assemble them properly.
It would certainly be a major upgrade from that Cryobi! :)

Search the reviews section of LumberJocks, there is a very in depth review of the delta 36-725.

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#2 posted 02-17-2016 02:47 PM

I have a Delta Contractors Saw II with a 48” fence guide. It has been a solid performer. Blade changes are not the easiest, but not a problem either.

Here is an image: http://www.woodworkingarchive.biz/dust-free-sanding/images/1275_299_186-delta-contractor-saw-dust-cover.jpg

I don’t know if it is still in production. Mine is about 18 years old. Still going strong.

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#3 posted 02-17-2016 02:58 PM

You’ve identified the top contenders for a new saw in your price range. The Delta would be my pick…better fence, better track record. The ABCs of Table Saws

The used market is always worth a look…there might be a heck a steal out there somewhere. What city are you near? Do you have 220v available?

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#4 posted 02-17-2016 03:10 PM

I’ve been pleased with my 36-725. It has ripped/crosscut some 8/4 white oak without skipping a beat. For the rip cuts, I used an Irwin Marples 24 tooth rip blade with a slow, steady feed and it worked great. I’ve made some short rip cuts in 8/4 oak with a 50 tooth combo blade and it worked but not as well as the 24 tooth.

Is the 36-5000 also a 1-piece fence rail? The 36-725 is 2 pieces. It did take a little more effort when assembling but hasn’t been an issue for me.

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#5 posted 02-17-2016 03:17 PM

Have you looked at the Grizzly 771 and 715? Both seem highly respected though they push your budget to the top end. You’ll soon hear the R4512 has the ‘blade wobble’ design flaw (unless you get a new one that has the better mounting system). The 715 shared that trait for a while. But do your research and figure out what the current state is.

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#6 posted 02-17-2016 03:18 PM

I agree with knotscott about the used market. I’d also suggest you rathole that cash build it up for a few months, siphon off a little from your tax return and than go buy your dream saw. There al always lots of great used saws
coming up on CL. Keep an eye on Govt auctions, school districts seem to be switching to Sawstop and getting rid of really decent name brand cabinet saws.

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#7 posted 02-17-2016 03:24 PM

I have the G0771. Great saw, in your price range. I would buy again without hesitation.

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#8 posted 02-17-2016 04:32 PM



I have the G0771. Great saw, in your price range. I would buy again without hesitation.

- ste6168


This is your best bet IMO.

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#9 posted 02-17-2016 05:04 PM

There was not a single credible report about the Grizzly/Craftsman “design flaw”. Some posted videos of the “problem” that prove nothing but the author’s incompetence. There was one or two a very while ago about the genuine issue in Ridgid R4512, which I associate with quality control due to sheer number of the saw produced. You always find a lemon in mass production and the more units are produced the higher chances that someone get a product with a defect.
The rest of the “design flaws” reports come from owners who just do not know how to go around a table saw.
So don’t be tricked into this.
In your price range Grizzly G0715P is by far the best saw, with G0771 and Delta 36-715 tie for a distant second. Ridgid R4512 is not bad saw either, I personally like it better than Delta with its aluminum trunnions.
Source: I owned G0771 and G0715P and played extensively with Delta and Ridgid/Craftsman saws in the store, so I am not an expert in the last three. Here is some traits of these saws.

Grizzly G0715P. Very solid saw with an excellent Shopfox Classic fence (albeit somehow light version). No aluminum is used in the saw. The saw is very heavy and accurate. Mobile base is optional.

Grizzly G0771. A cut down version of G0715P. Some parts such as handles wheels, fence, blade guard are aluminum. Table finish and evenness is not as good as in G0715P. The fence besides is being aluminum is split rail and lock in the rear design, which makes is less accurate and more cumbersome to use. My experience was that the trunnions are built to less strict tolerances than G0715P. Mobile base is optional.

Delta 36-725. Very light saw due to the internals being made mostly of aluminum. Wings are stamped steel. Dust control is sub-par compared to Grizzly hybrids. Fence is split design. Some people praise the fence, however it did not impress me at all. Mobile base is built in.

Ridgid R4512 and its clones.
Very solid saw. Two things I did not like: stamped steel wings and the fence ( but both can be upgraded) . Has the best mobile base of any saw ( maybe with exception of Powermatic 2000, which is 7 times more expensive)

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#10 posted 02-19-2016 06:57 AM

716 – you say the 715p doesn’t have alignment issues? Is it just proper setup that needs to be done, or something else. I had all but scratched grizzly off my list due to “alignment” issues, but would like to know more about what the alignment videos are showing?

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#11 posted 03-03-2016 05:48 PM

Thank you all for your input I really appreciate it, I didn’t even know that Grizzly had saws in that prices range. Sorry for not replying so soon just been swamped with work. Now going forward if you all had to choose between the Delta 36-5000 or the Grizzly 715p what would you all do. Plus I still have to talk the wife into the higher price range so I ate end up back at my $600-$750 range and if it comes to that I may just stick with the 36-725.

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#12 posted 03-03-2016 06:44 PM

I have the G0715P with an Incra LS-III & M1000 miter gauge. Cuts like a dream.

Add a digital height gauge and you can cut to 1/32” +-.002” everytime!

M

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