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Forum topic by UncleSnail posted 02-15-2010 08:40 AM 2986 views 0 times favorited 38 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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UncleSnail

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02-15-2010 08:40 AM

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Hi all…...I have been researching dovetail/box joint jigs for quite some time now. I am leaning toward PC’s 4216 12inch. It is on sale at Woodcraft this month and has all the extra tempplates for future anticipated expansion. The Leigh is a tad expensive and I can’t afford to even look at Festool. Any comments on the Porter Cable? Are there others out there that are good and reasonably priced? ($200 + or -). Thanks. Uncle Snail

-- Dale, Michigan, vandehberg@att.net....sharp objects scare me.....my wife scares me too.


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blackcherry

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#1 posted 02-15-2010 08:50 AM

Take a look at the Keller Dovetail Jig….http://www.kellerdovetail.com/ ...Blkcherry

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#2 posted 02-15-2010 08:51 AM

TY BlackCherry…I’ll get back to ya.

-- Dale, Michigan, vandehberg@att.net....sharp objects scare me.....my wife scares me too.

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#3 posted 02-15-2010 08:59 AM

Keller appears to be too pricey for me …It looks like just the tempplate. Am I missing something?

-- Dale, Michigan, vandehberg@att.net....sharp objects scare me.....my wife scares me too.

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#4 posted 02-15-2010 09:42 AM

If I were buying again, I would keep an eye on ebay, craigslist, etc. for a leigh. The (relatively) new isoloc remplate designs look just too interesting to not try them. The Akeda faired well in most comparisons, and I found it on sale for about $250.

http://benchmark.20m.com/articles/LeighVersusAkeda/LeighVersusAkeda.html

Check out this before you make a final decision.
http://www.leighjigs.com/isoloc.php

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#5 posted 02-17-2010 04:13 AM

To Skarp: TY for the reply and info. I don’t understand the Incra jig as yet….but I will investigate it further…it is intriguing. Does it work on the router table? if yes…then I really need to look at it….might be worth the extra cost.

To Rgholl: Like to TY also….good stuff. I will look further into Leigh….but they do appear pricey….and more complex. My philosophy is usually to buy high in anticipation of increased need. On the fence with this however. Thanks for the info. Uncle Snail

-- Dale, Michigan, vandehberg@att.net....sharp objects scare me.....my wife scares me too.

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#6 posted 02-17-2010 04:21 AM

I’ve got the PC. It is a decent starter jig. Dovetails a bit generic, as they often are with dt jigs. The learning curve is not too bad. Plan to spend a little time practicing with scrap.

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UncleSnail

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#7 posted 02-17-2010 04:31 AM

thanks Paul…..A decent starter jig is exactly what I am looking for. I just checked out the Incra Positioner more thoroughly…very impressive but…it is PRICEY! I would like variable spacing on my joints…..does the PC 4216 do that? Uncle Snail

-- Dale, Michigan, vandehberg@att.net....sharp objects scare me.....my wife scares me too.

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#8 posted 02-17-2010 06:52 AM

Here’s a vote for the Akeda. Simple enough to be your first jig, good enough to be your last :-)

-- Laziness minus Apathy equals Efficiency

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#9 posted 02-17-2010 07:10 AM

I’m happy with the PC, but it doesn’t do variable spacing if that’s what you want.

-- Joe

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#10 posted 02-17-2010 07:55 AM

I have 2 of the PC’s I set one up for the pins, and one for the tails, and also have 2 separate PC routers dedicated to the jigs. It saves a lot of setup time. They work just fine. Check out http://www.deltaportercable.com/jigs/dovetail/ for instructions on doing much more with them as well you can download the advanced manual that show more tricks.

-- Life is to short to own an ugly boat.

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UncleSnail

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#11 posted 02-17-2010 08:34 AM

Pete-Jud….I thought the pc jig would gang cut the pins and tails. ?

-- Dale, Michigan, vandehberg@att.net....sharp objects scare me.....my wife scares me too.

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#12 posted 02-17-2010 08:39 AM

The Incra LS17inch positioner system is looking better all the time. I really like the idea of using my router table as opposed to freehanding another router. $350 and it comes complete. $150 more then I am prepared to pay at this time but I am in no hurry…I’m retired..hehe…....I can wait and scrounge up another $150 over the price of the PC 4216. Plus….the LS Positioner Fence is a beautiful router fence….another big plus. Uncle Snail

-- Dale, Michigan, vandehberg@att.net....sharp objects scare me.....my wife scares me too.

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#13 posted 02-17-2010 12:22 PM

I have the PC also. As mentioned above having 2 dedicated routers is the way to go. I think they even recommend it in the manual.
Also mentioned is the learning curve( more like the RE-learning for me) is pretty quick when you use infrequently.

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#14 posted 02-17-2010 01:22 PM

Many choices.

-- Let's do it in the wood pile!

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#15 posted 02-19-2010 02:00 AM

The PC does not do variable spaced tails. I also have the Incra Super System (positioner). That system is great, although it is best for short pieces of wood for boxes, etc. You would never want to do a large pieces on it because you need to run boards through standing on ends for one half of the joint (pins? tails? ... the drawer sides).

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