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Forum topic by TheWoodViking posted 02-15-2016 02:54 PM 1042 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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TheWoodViking

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02-15-2016 02:54 PM

Topic tags/keywords: stair gauge staircase starrett

I recently bought a set of Stair Gauges made by Starrett and to my surprise one of them weren’t properly manufactured.

I contacted Starrett regarding this, they agreed with me on this that something must had happened to one of them during the manufacturing process.

So they sent me a new pair, and believe it or not now both of them are incorrectly manufactured..

I made a video on YouTube to show to Starrett, here you can see for yourself If you like, It’s easier to explain in a video what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq1UwpBUpSA

Is there anyone here who owns a pair of these? or knows anyone who owns a pair, It would be fun to hear from someone else who got these Stair Gauges.

Cheers, Andreas


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#1 posted 02-15-2016 08:06 PM

You can look and tell they are chinesium. Unfortunately Starrett is allowing their name to be used on low end chinese made products. If it were a real Starrett product it would be made of machined, hardened, tool steel and cost 10x what you paid.

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#2 posted 02-15-2016 08:17 PM



You can look and tell they are chinesium. Unfortunately Starrett is allowing their name to be used on low end chinese made products. If it were a real Starrett product it would be made of machined, hardened, tool steel and cost 10x what you paid.

- Rick M.


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#3 posted 02-16-2016 02:37 AM



You can look and tell they are chinesium. Unfortunately Starrett is allowing their name to be used on low end chinese made products. If it were a real Starrett product it would be made of machined, hardened, tool steel and cost 10x what you paid.

- Rick M.

A new word for us to quote now, excellent. LOL

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#4 posted 02-16-2016 03:36 AM

Rick is right. I was a machinist for several years and bought several Starrett tools. None were made cheap at all. In fact they were the most expensive for a reason. If they have gone to china as well it is a shame.

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#5 posted 02-16-2016 02:19 PM



Rick is right. I was a machinist for several years and bought several Starrett tools. None were made cheap at all. In fact they were the most expensive for a reason. If they have gone to china as well it is a shame.

- indianajoe

It is INDEED a shame that Starrett lets their name be put on Chinesium (ohhhhhh I’m gonna use the hell outta this word). Luckily, they haven’t “gone to china”, at least not at this time. The high-end precision, quality stuff is still made here. From what I’ve observed, they’ve just started augmenting their line with some “value” priced tools. I’ve seen some squares on Amazon and there are some rules as well that are priced much lower than typical for the brand. You can tell from the pictures that they’re not what we’ve come to expect from the company. You can also tell from the reviews that the cheaper stuff isn’t up to par with the “real” Starrett tools.

As much as I despise their addition of these “economy” type tools, I understand it. They have to make money to stay in business and when there are “good enough” precision tools being imported and sold at a fraction of the cost, Starrett has to adapt or be run out of the market. I’m just glad that they are still producing the good stuff as well.

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#6 posted 02-16-2016 02:31 PM

Yeah, it used to be that anything that said Starrett on it was top quality. Not so anymore. It’s like if Ferrari were to start making a $30k (or cheaper) car. Just because it has their name doesn’t automatically mean quality, so buyer beware. I have several Starrett items for my machining use and they are all amazing. It’s more the woodworker and home owner type products that Starrett has started making cheaply and such. If it is for machining, it’s usually still the high quality product, but like Rick said, you pay for it, but only once.

-- Brian T. - Exact science is not an exact science

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#7 posted 02-16-2016 05:39 PM

It’s unfortunate their low end tools are no better than HF. Seems like there would be a healthy market for middle of the road tools but maybe modern manufacturing makes that impossible.

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#8 posted 02-16-2016 06:06 PM

. When Donald Trump brings manufacturing back to America, you will again see some good tools.

- MrRon

Hahahaha, I seriously find it hard to believe a grown man could be so naive. Please continue. — On 2nd thought don’t.

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#9 posted 02-16-2016 06:22 PM



For stair building, you don t need thousands of an inch accuracy, but yes I would be pissed to see the fine name of Starrett on such a cheap Chinese tool. When Donald Trump brings manufacturing back to America, you will again see some good tools.

- MrRon

There is no shortage of good tools now. American made and otherwise. You just have to pay for it. Unfortunately, quality, American-made tools at a low price point will not return regardless of who’s president. When it comes to tools, you can have low-cost, good quality, American made – PICK 2.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#10 posted 02-16-2016 09:16 PM

So I have some news in this matter, they just replied to my latest email, here it is.

Hello Andreas

Sorry to hear about receiving a second pair of gages that are not correct. I have sent your email (along with the “you-tube” link to our tech support team and chief inspector for their review and thoughts.)

At this time – our options are limited as we have no units in stock to send you. There is a production lot going in the factory – but that lot is just beginning and will be some time before we have these units available. I am waiting to see what we have for a delivery schedule for these new sets.

I will have some more information for you as soon as possible – sit tight….we’ll get this issue cleared –up as soon as possible.

Than you for your video and patience in this matter.

Regards,
Starrett

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#11 posted 02-17-2016 11:11 AM

I see and understand your frustration with what should be a quality made tool. Using them in the way you show would pose some minor in accuracy. Personally I would not trust the framing square for any measurement. If you lay out 1 run and rise on a board, whether scrap or job material, then set the gauges on a square and match it up with your layout they will be as accurate your layout is. Also see attached video, note the lesser expensive gauges and listen to the other ideas he has. Also note the square has no measurement markings. The tool is only as accurate as it’s operator. – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SauPzmtvJ4g

MIKE

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