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02-12-2010 05:18 PM

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Hi Guys,
New to LJ and just getting back into woodworking after a long hiatus. I worked in a cabinet shop during college but haven’t had the time or means to do any of my own woodworking until now (15 years later).

I have just started putting together my own low-budget shop and am looking for some advice. My shop currently consists of the following:

Jet Proshop Hybrid TS with 30” fence
Bench Dog Cast Iron Router Table Extension
Bosch 1617EVS Router Combo
Ryobi 1301 Planer
PC Compound Miter Saw
Harbor Freight 2HP Dust Collector (waiting to do some mods—better filter, chip collector—for $142 I couldn’t pass it up)
Craftsman Scroll Saw

I am trying to figure out if I should get a Band Saw or Jointer next or if I am missing the boat and should be looking in a different direction. I will primarily be making boxes, small tables, bookshelves,etc. and eventually a new dining room table.

Any and all advice would be appreciated.


-- You may delay, but time will not. --Ben Franklin

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#1 posted 02-12-2010 05:22 PM

band saw or scroll saw?

-- M.K.

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#2 posted 02-12-2010 05:28 PM

IMO…the jointer should be next…you can’t make anything without being square, right? I picked up my SteelX 6” floor jointer from Grizzley on clearance for 269.00 with shipping and tax. It isn’t a Powermatic, but it does great job for me.

I do recommend a floor jointer over a benchtop because of weight, vibration, and size of stock that can be milled.

Besides a jointer is easier on a wallet than a band saw when you include all the accessories.

-- Semper Fi, Randy Sr.

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#3 posted 02-12-2010 05:35 PM

Sorry, forgot to mention—already have a scroll saw—so Bandsaw—I was thinking 14” Delta, grizzly, Rikon, etc.

-- You may delay, but time will not. --Ben Franklin

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Rick Dennington

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#4 posted 02-12-2010 05:36 PM

Greetings Gus: I say go for the jointer next. When you start making all the things you mentioned, you’ll need your wood to be jointed on all sides. That way they will be flat, square, and go together nicely….....

-- At my age, an "all--nighter" is not having to get up and pee...!!!

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#5 posted 02-12-2010 05:44 PM

Welcome to LJ’s.

I agree with Randy, I think the jointer would be most useful, therefore your next purchase.

The Grizzly 8” is a beauty, I had the G0586 and it was great. If you can fork over the extra money, the G0593 is the same machine, also on sale and it has the spiral cutterhead.

-- Chip ----------- 6:8

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#6 posted 02-12-2010 06:03 PM

i square everythign up on my TS and planer….my jointer is a P.O.S….so you can get a jointer if you get a really nice one but i use a band saw more….just my perspective….not to disagree with the others

-- M.K.

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#7 posted 02-12-2010 06:12 PM

It depends what your going to be making if unsure I’d go with the jointer.

-- Custom furniture

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#8 posted 02-12-2010 06:27 PM

These are the tools that get used the most in my shop:

The table saw, chop saw, jointer, and planer are the main big tools that get a constant workout. Keep in mind a dust collector is always on when the table saw, planer, or jointer are running so there is an extra machine that is overlooked.

The basic needs in the shop are fairly universal. You need to make wood flat and square, ripped to a width, and cut to length.

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana,

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#9 posted 02-12-2010 07:12 PM

Can someone give me a read on using my router and a straight bit to perform edge jointing and the planer for doing faces? I have had good success with a 1/2” straightbit and using 1/16” spacers on the outfeed side fence of the router table.

-- You may delay, but time will not. --Ben Franklin

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#10 posted 02-12-2010 07:27 PM

every board i mill goes ts,jointer,planer – i really only use my bs to resaw

-- -erik & christy-

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#11 posted 02-12-2010 07:43 PM

I myself have been looking for a BS, and with reviews, research, and comparing…I decided on the 14” resaw band saw from Grizzely. I plan on a lot of resawing and patterns, but this is about 1100.00 with shipping and tax, so it will be awhile.

I figure with the accessories for the 14” ultimate BS, time to put together, and the size of the motor it is a better deal.

Everything else I looked into had either way more negative feedback or was just not what I needed/wanted.

But hey that is my opinion…and we know what they say about them….

-- Semper Fi, Randy Sr.

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#12 posted 02-12-2010 07:55 PM

My vote goes to the jointer next – and I’m somewhat of a bandsaw geek. For your small boxes that have curved parts, you can use the scroll saw. Starting out with pieces that are not correctly jointed is frustrating.

-- To do is to be

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#13 posted 02-12-2010 08:10 PM

I can certainly appreciate the low budget needs – been there myself! The above jointer suggestions are good, but unless you can find a good used one, it will gobble up a lot of budget. You didn’t say what size shop space you have. If moving machines around is necessary keep in mind that a floor mounted jointer will weigh 300 lbs or more.

My suggestion would be to first get a good workbench. The type with shoulder and tail vices and bench dogs. This has been a key “tool” for every project that I have made.

-- "Heaven is North of the Bridge"

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#14 posted 02-12-2010 08:34 PM

I would go jointer, too. I found a used Jet 6” jointer on Craigslist for $240 that was in good shape. It quickly became one of my favorite tools especially since all my lumber is rough cut. You might be able to get away without the jointer if you’re using dimensioned and surfaced lumber, but even then I still like to pass everything over the jointer before using it.

I picked up a bandsaw as one of my last large tools and it definitely has it’s purpose, but I use it less often than the jointer.

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#15 posted 02-12-2010 10:07 PM

Aside from the last measure of smoothness is there a difference in running a 6” board through a planner or over a jointer?

-- You may delay, but time will not. --Ben Franklin

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