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Forum topic by stefang posted 02-12-2010 01:33 AM 1356 views 0 times favorited 33 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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stefang

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02-12-2010 01:33 AM

I used to be a risk taker and made my own decisions, but now if I’m in doubt I just post the question on an LJ forum and at least several experts have the right answer(s) for me, just like that! Am I becoming a woodworking machine programmed by others? On top of that the membership is composed of people from so many trades and professions that it doesn’t even have to be a woodworking question and you will still get good advice! I used to be good at making mistakes and there were a lot of amusing stories about them to tell my family and friends. I’ve noticed there’s been a serious decline in those sort of incidents since joining LJ. I try to brag about my successful project results, but it seems that only the failures and not the successes were amusing to hear about. I guess this is what happens. It’s like the news. People are only interested in bad news and the funny papers. Does anyone else have this problem?

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.


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Drew

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#1 posted 02-12-2010 01:41 AM

Wood cost too much to not ask questions.

-- That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons that history has to teach.” ― Aldous Huxley

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patron

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#2 posted 02-12-2010 01:42 AM

well , mike ,
i have been thinking of going back ,
to being a gigolo !

sometimes the stress of being an average woodworker ,
is just to much to bear !

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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rtb

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#3 posted 02-12-2010 01:47 AM

Hi Mike, So , whats the problem ? when we stop learning we die.

-- RTB. stray animals are just looking for love

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Jeison

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#4 posted 02-12-2010 01:54 AM

Look at it this way, by drawing on the knowledge of others who have already figured out some of the things you want to know, it makes more time/effort/energy available to take those lessons as building blocks and apply it to brand new ideas. Eventually you’ll come across a situation where no one has the answer and you’re the one who gets to figure it out, and then the next person can come to YOU for the answer, and then the effort THEY save can be applied to the NEXT problem, and so on.

The problem only arises when people get so used to being spoonfed answers that when they come to a roadblock instead of figuring it out for themselves, and therefore contributing to the process, they just throw their hands up and wait for someone else to do it. If everyone is waiting for someone else, nothing ever gets done.

On the topic of people interested in only bad news, I blame the tabloids for that lol. Interestingly there is an engineering maxim my dad liked that says you learn more from a failure then you do from a success.

-- - Jei, Rockford IL - When in doubt, spray it with WD-40 and wrap it with duct tape. The details will attend to themselves.

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a1Jim

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#5 posted 02-12-2010 01:58 AM

Hey Mike
The serious decline in mistakes is called experience now that your in you mid thirties your going to have to get over these little philosophical questions. I know you can overcome this great tendencies to brag with a little consoling. As to the risk taking you still have that,you posted here didn’t you? LOL Just having fun Mike.
I always value your input . So in all seriousness to answer you question. I just don’t know!
Hey David I’m sure you would sway all those rich beautiful woman.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#6 posted 02-12-2010 01:59 AM

Mike, I guess that woodworking is like any other lifeskill. Practice and success seem to go hand in hand up to a point and you are right about the successes seeming to be “less interesting” than the failures. With a successful build the general concensus is simply “that’s nice”. But mistakes generally seem to generate more attention.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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stefang

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#7 posted 02-12-2010 02:02 AM

Well Jei, if that’s true then that makes me a very knowledgeable woodworker! David please let me know if it goes well and you need any part time help there.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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stefang

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#8 posted 02-12-2010 02:06 AM

It’s too bad we don’t have a “failed project” category here on LJ. If we did I would be able to post a lot more and maybe get the recognition I deserve.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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Jeison

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#9 posted 02-12-2010 02:08 AM

Case in point – I know I have your tutorial on felt lining stuff favorited because I’m going to be making a jewelry armoire for my mom at some point, so that’ll save me from figuring it out on my own, and I can apply that time and frustration to screwing up some OTHER aspect of the construction, which I can then share and then the next guy can learn from that :D \o/

-- - Jei, Rockford IL - When in doubt, spray it with WD-40 and wrap it with duct tape. The details will attend to themselves.

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stefang

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#10 posted 02-12-2010 02:23 AM

Well anyway I probably don’t have to worry too much about woodworking for awhile. My wife just had a new operation, this time to her knee and I’m taking her home from the hospital tomorrow. She never really recovered well after her hip operation last fall because of her bad knee. And she still has yet another hip operation to go. This is not easy for her and I sure wish she didn’t have to go through it. The upside is that I’m becoming a real whiz at housework. Like I told the wife the other day, heck if I knew it was this easy I might have tried it out before now. Anyway she’s probably pretty pleased about getting some payback. She richly deserves it. I will finish my hinge blog though, I hope this weekend. Actually the only housework my wife has done since last Sept. has been cooking the evening meals (self preservation) and of course doing all the brain work. Besides the housework I am in charge of transport and heavy lifting. This would probably make a lot of people happy, if they only knew! As you can see from this pitiful writing I’m not doing well without the LOML at home, so I am burdening you folks with it.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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#11 posted 02-12-2010 02:32 AM

More mamsy pansy feel good, pat on the back, misguided, well intentioned let downs.

Kids. Most are ignored by their folks, the only entertainment comes form the TV, and all sit and get fat. teachers with little if any life skills,................. college instructors who have ZERO practical experience with grads who quite literally suck at this trade. Coddled kids raised by cottled parents, both generations living in a world of “entitlement”.

Videos of kids slaughtering perfectly perfect timber and folks who back them up and encourage them to do so.

I have three kids (nonof which are genetically linked to me) living under my roof. Every single one of them gets what they want for breakfast, they dine out for lunch, they dont set the table, they eat and text message during dinner and then they watch the dumbest most idiotic TV I have ever seen. They are lazy, self endulgent little bastards who have learned that their mother can, and will do it all and you know whats really bad…....compared to most kids, they arent so bad. their grades suck and they suck at sports but their mother encourages them to continue sleeping in, watching tv, she buys them pre packaged individual cheese because she knows they are too lazy to cut a slice off.

The Chinese must laugh at us, same for the germans, the swiss and its no wonder why so many nations hate us. Just keep patting people on the back, assure them they are perfect, wipe the snot from their nose and pamper their pasty butt.

I’m going to make some dust, nuff said

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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Jeison

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#12 posted 02-12-2010 02:35 AM

aw sorry to hear bout that, burden away, always makes ME feel better lol!
Well, that and cake. I do so like cake. Cake makes everything better. Especially ice cream cake. With crunchy things in the middle. Ice cream cake solves everything. EVERYTHING
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unless you’re lactose intolerant, then you’re pretty much screwed.

edit: cuts roman an extra big slice, sounds like he needs it

-- - Jei, Rockford IL - When in doubt, spray it with WD-40 and wrap it with duct tape. The details will attend to themselves.

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patron

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#13 posted 02-12-2010 02:38 AM

hope the wife is felling better , mike .

and yea , she must be proud of you for helping .

if we did have a place for mistakes ,
i would proudly join you at the podium !

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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Moron

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#14 posted 02-12-2010 02:47 AM

most cake sucks too, comes from a jiffy pop box where you add 2 eggs and look…........an instant pastry chef.

As much as I love “home made” cake served with real ice cream, not that store bought crap full of gasoline by-products, ethenol and a gazillion preservatives…..........I refrain.

Ya cake and ice cream works…..................it made America Fat.

chips any one????

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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Mogebier

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#15 posted 02-12-2010 02:48 AM

I only ask questions when I have exhausted my brain.

-- You can get more with a kind word and a 2 by 4, than you can with just a kind word.

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