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Forum topic by papadan posted 02-11-2010 10:27 PM 4951 views 0 times favorited 52 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-11-2010 10:27 PM

Got about 3 paragraphs into a long rant and just changed my mind and deleted them. I have decided that you are all correct in your blogs, replies and PMs. I told a kid that wants to be a carpenter that he needed to build a 2 holer. Damn what a son-of-a-bitch I am. You all go ahead and encourage Jacob to quit school and go to work as a carpentar, this world will always need uneducated ditch diggers. Jacob, it’s alright sunshine, one of these days you will run this site. That said, I will leave it to the Attaboys and Saints to carry on.

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#1 posted 02-11-2010 10:34 PM

Attaboy Dan LOL not in support of what you said just to give that positive input.

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#2 posted 02-11-2010 10:35 PM

Just shows how many different personalities are here on LJ’s. I don’t think that telling a kid to stay in school is unjust…guess we all have our on days and our off days.

-- Woodworking.....My small slice of heaven!

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#3 posted 02-11-2010 10:39 PM

Nuff said

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#4 posted 02-11-2010 10:40 PM

I sure would have loved to read the 3 paragraphs. Here’s a “ATTABOY” from me too. I surely don’t disagree with you.

-- Guy Kroll

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#5 posted 02-11-2010 11:26 PM

this is the part of the conversation where Jei pretends he knows what a 2 holer is so I’ll just nod quietly and agree

-- - Jei, Rockford IL - When in doubt, spray it with WD-40 and wrap it with duct tape. The details will attend to themselves.

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#6 posted 02-11-2010 11:43 PM

Papadan—I agree.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#7 posted 02-11-2010 11:45 PM

Maybe I missed something in Jacobs first post-

I am 15 in year 10 i want to be a carpentar when i leave at the end of this year what do u think would be a good idea to make in my wood work class this year as my big project to impres the people i want to get a job with? Please send anything you can that you might think will help.

I see no reference to where he is quitting school to become an uneducated drain on society. There may be countless reasons for his “leaving at the end of this year”. Moving? Changing curriculums? An entirely different school system with which we may be familiar? Religious beliefs? I am sure we could think of a few more.

The point is, as has been pointed out before, Jacob is here asking for help and a public, holier-than-thou attitude type response clearly is unwarranted.


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#8 posted 02-11-2010 11:50 PM

Ditto what Jim said… attaboy. Hey what you got against us educated ditch diggers?

-- ~Just A Guy With A Hammer~

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#9 posted 02-11-2010 11:56 PM

I said it before and I will say it again it is hard here on this LJ site to say in your comments really what you believe, we have too many Good job, Nice work, Fine work, Atta boy.
If you say what you really mean well you’re a bad member and you get push to the side.

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#10 posted 02-12-2010 12:05 AM

i joined the carpenters union while i was in grade 11 through a co-op class then as an apprentice. i finished my high school and still worked. get school done first is what i say. kudos to you papadan i support ya but we don’t know if hes droppin school or what not. I’m behind you 100% that we need educated carpenters who are willing to learn and be a role model to the next generation so if you’re reading this jacob, stay in school, study carpentry and take it up at home until you get apprenticed.

-- M.K.

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#12 posted 02-12-2010 01:52 AM

I know everyone meant well with their comments in spite of some harshness, but I do think the boy will be more likely to listen to our advice in the future if we show him some kindness now and don’t dismiss his ambitions out of hand or be sarcastic about his grammar or spelling skills. Many of us have walked the hard road, but we found friends along the way who helped us and didn’t judge us. If his plans are unrealistic he will find out soon enough and find other ways to realize his dreams.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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#13 posted 02-12-2010 02:30 AM

Just think, Bill Gates did not finish college, neither did Sir Richard Branson of Virgin Airways. If he has a good head on his shoulders he will compensate. That said, Education always makes the road in life a lot easier. Let’s just hope he stays single until he gets a bit more maturity and sees first hand the benifit of an education. Hopefully he will learn before he winds up with a wife and 8 kids lined up at the table.

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#14 posted 02-12-2010 02:39 AM

I am also wondering what the heck is a two holer. Guess I ain’t got enough hegemecation…

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#15 posted 02-12-2010 02:46 AM

I can’t believe you guys don’t know what a two holer Is. we used to have one, the neighbor does have one, Its grandfathered as they are now banned!

And yes I would advise Jacob to continue his education if possible. Not knowing were he is from its certinaly difficult to advise, but as some pretty smart guy (Sir Francis Bacon) said one time “Knowledge is power”. If circumstances won’t allow you to continue school full time, look for evening classes if they are available.

-- Fred, Springfield, Ma

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