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02-08-2016 09:36 PM

HI, I have a older delta 10inch table saw 1HP. its been ok but the motor is going on it and I cut my wood from logs with chain saw then plane then cut up, I found what looks like a deal on a delta 12inch, cast iron , with a new Dayton 2 or 3 HP. wired for 220 which is no problem, The guy said it works better on 220 than 110, Is there alot of difference with these two saws? or am I getting something I dont need? Its only $250.00 and the photos look very good. Any input would be nice, Thanks!


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#1 posted 02-08-2016 09:54 PM

12” is definitely a luxury if you can afford it and for that price, I wouldn’t hesitate. You really need to find the correct HP on the motor though cause 2 HP in my opinion isn’t really enough to take advantage of a 12” blade. I use to do alot of milling on a 14” and a 12” but we had them setup with 5HP 3 phase motors.

John

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#2 posted 02-08-2016 10:07 PM

Easy enough for me!...if you don’t ever use 12” capacity, check out the price difference on blades…now at that price, guess you could use 10” blades.

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#3 posted 02-08-2016 10:10 PM

Is there alot of difference with these two saws?
- Bud2

Even though you did not specify either saw I would imagine that yes, there is a lot of differences between an 1HP 10” saw and 2-3HP 12” saw.

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#4 posted 02-08-2016 10:21 PM

I would go for it, do you have any pictures or a model number? The blades will be more expensive, but the power and capacity sound like major upgrades. If it’s 3hp, it would certainly be better to run it on 240V as the amps required at 120V would be quite high resulting a greater voltage drop and a greater chance of damaging the motor under high stress situations. Pictures are key here, that could be a really good deal if the saw is in good shape.

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#5 posted 02-08-2016 10:55 PM



I would go for it, do you have any pictures or a model number? The blades will be more expensive, but the power and capacity sound like major upgrades. If it s 3hp, it would certainly be better to run it on 240V as the amps required at 120V would be quite high resulting a greater voltage drop and a greater chance of damaging the motor under high stress situations. Pictures are key here, that could be a really good deal if the saw is in good shape.

- bigblockyeti Here is a web. sight where its for sale I am going there tomarrow morning to see it, there are a couple photos, I talked to the guy today and he said may be a 3 HP. http://limaohio.craigslist.org/tls/5432294402.html


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#6 posted 02-08-2016 10:57 PM


I would go for it, do you have any pictures or a model number? The blades will be more expensive, but the power and capacity sound like major upgrades. If it s 3hp, it would certainly be better to run it on 240V as the amps required at 120V would be quite high resulting a greater voltage drop and a greater chance of damaging the motor under high stress situations. Pictures are key here, that could be a really good deal if the saw is in good shape.

- bigblockyeti Here is a web. sight where its for sale I am going there tomarrow morning to see it, there are a couple photos, I talked to the guy today and he said may be a 3 HP. http://limaohio.craigslist.org/tls/5432294402.html and my saw now is a TS350 delta 11 years old,

- Bud2


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#7 posted 02-08-2016 11:11 PM

Looks like a 34-388 12” contractor saw. IIRC, those originally came with a 2hp motor. If it was upgraded to 3hp, I doubt you will be able to run it on 120v unless you install a dedicated 30A circuit for it.

As for your existing saw… what is wrong with the motor? ”The motor is going on it” is kind of vague :)
Most likely, you can get it back to new for cheap.

Cheers,
Brad

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#8 posted 02-08-2016 11:11 PM

If it’s a delta 12” then it is what is called a 12/14. Which would mean you can spin a 12 or a 14 inch blade. I am not aware of delta making any other 12 inch ts.

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#9 posted 02-08-2016 11:13 PM

I am not aware of delta making any other 12 inch ts.

They made a few, starting around 1949 IIRC. One was a beast with a 1-1/8” arbor and could cut a 2” dado :) The 12-14 is much more common though.

Cheers,
Brad

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#10 posted 02-08-2016 11:17 PM



Looks like a 34-388 12” contractor saw. IIRC, those originally came with a 2hp motor. If it was upgraded to 3hp, I doubt you will be able to run it on 120v unless you install a dedicated 30A circuit for it.

As for your existing saw… what is wrong with the motor? ”The motor is going on it” is kind of vague :)
Most likely, you can get it back to new for cheap.

Cheers, As for the motor it is kicking the breaker off all the time if any force is put on it and sometimes when I just turn it on it runs at 1/2 speed and makes a bad noise and the breaker goes off without ever putting wood in it? I tried to find a motor for it and it about imposable and I talked to a ele. shop today they said its a sealed motor and cant even take it apart to fix it, Delta said this motor was made just for this saw and they dont make it anymore.l
Brad

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#11 posted 02-08-2016 11:43 PM

I tried to find a motor for it and it about imposable and I talked to a ele. shop today they said its a sealed motor and cant even take it apart to fix it,

Sounds like the shop is clueless. It is specific to the saw, but it’s still just an regular 3450 rpm induction motor (no brushes), and it’s not ‘sealed’. Since you have already written it off, you might as well open it up and see what might be the problem. Could be several easily fixed problems, but you will never know unless you go looking :)

As for the motor it is kicking the breaker off all the time if any force is put on it and sometimes when I just turn it on it runs at 1/2 speed and makes a bad noise and the breaker goes off without ever putting wood in it?

Sounds like an easy fix… centrifugal switch contacts, capacitor or bearings. Might even be something as simple as being caked up with sawdust.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#12 posted 02-08-2016 11:53 PM


I tried to find a motor for it and it about imposable and I talked to a ele. shop today they said its a sealed motor and cant even take it apart to fix it,

Sounds like the shop is clueless. It is specific to the saw, but it s still just an regular 3450 rpm induction motor (no brushes), and it s not sealed . Since you have already written it off, you might as well open it up and see what might be the problem. Could be several easily fixed problems, but you will never know unless you go looking :)

As for the motor it is kicking the breaker off all the time if any force is put on it and sometimes when I just turn it on it runs at 1/2 speed and makes a bad noise and the breaker goes off without ever putting wood in it?

Sounds like an easy fix… centrifugal switch contacts, capacitor or bearings. Might even be something as simple as being caked up with sawdust.

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix


I think I will do that this week, your right might as well check it out, suppose to be snowing and cold this week so be nice job to work on in garage, I am no expert at all with ele. motors just told you what the guy told me, I am pretty good at all other things mechanical so will check it out, still dont understand why on line I cant find a motor ti replace this one? would another motor fit this saw? One sight said delta made this just for this saw and others wont work???

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#13 posted 02-09-2016 12:02 AM

Everyone getting on you for the motor aside, I would say if you have a direct drive contractor saw now and the newer (to you) saw is a belt drive cabinet saw I would make the change. One thing you may want to do WITHOUT taking your motor apart is blow the sawdust out of it first. Turn the arbor by hand and listen and feel for any problems with the bearings. Just blowing it out may be all it needs.

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#14 posted 02-09-2016 01:40 AM

I tried to find a motor for it and it about imposable and I talked to a ele. shop today they said its a sealed motor and cant even take it apart to fix it,

Sounds like the shop is clueless. It is specific to the saw, but it s still just an regular 3450 rpm induction motor (no brushes), and it s not sealed .

- MrUnix

Induction motors indeed sometimes come ‘sealed’. One of the flanges is a part of the motor cover, like a deep cup.
It is sometimes possible to pull out the rotor from the side that is not sealed and hope the bearing stay on the shaft so they can be replaced. But forget about rewinding it.
This would be one of them. The furthest side has the vent cap and the flange is one solid piece with the ribbed motor cover. They are not designed to be fixed.

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#15 posted 02-10-2016 12:07 AM


I tried to find a motor for it and it about imposable and I talked to a ele. shop today they said its a sealed motor and cant even take it apart to fix it,

Sounds like the shop is clueless. It is specific to the saw, but it s still just an regular 3450 rpm induction motor (no brushes), and it s not sealed .

- MrUnix HI, well I got the saw today for $200 it seems very sturdy all cast but the motor is 2hp and turns only 1750 rpm. I did cut some wood with it and it is strong when pushing the wood hard threw it did not slow down , I got a different size pully should speed it up to 2600 to 300 rpm see how that works if not good will get a 5hp put on it then be real good, will try this wed. see how it works, also cleaned out the other saw seems to be working ok for now can sell it now anyways help pay for the other I just bought, wont sell it if not sure its ok to run good, Does this 2hp still have the power if I put a bigger pully on it to turn the blade faster? or will it not be as strong? THANKS for input on all this,

Induction motors indeed sometimes come sealed . One of the flanges is a part of the motor cover, like a deep cup.
It is sometimes possible to pull out the rotor from the side that is not sealed and hope the bearing stay on the shaft so they can be replaced. But forget about rewinding it.
This would be one of them. The furthest side has the vent cap and the flange is one solid piece with the ribbed motor cover. They are not designed to be fixed.

- 716


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