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02-09-2010 12:36 AM

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Folks,

I’m about to press the trigger and get the combination set of Norton water stones from PeachTree, so far the best deal I found, $120 for 220/1000, 4000/8000, flattening stone, instructional DVD & sharpening tray + free shipping over on any purchase over $75. Also Lie nielsen has some good prices I can get the 2 stones for $105 plus s/h without the DVD,the flattening stone and the sharpening tray, still not as good as PeachTree

I just need to know which one is better. Norton Water stone,Oil stone,Shapton GlassStones or Diamond stone?

What are the advantages or disadvantages that you guys find after using any of those methods.

Thanks

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#1 posted 02-09-2010 12:38 AM

My stones are called Worksharp 3000

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#2 posted 02-09-2010 12:44 AM

Jim,

I have one question,

I’ve seen the Worksharp before, but I never try one, can you do micro bevels on it?

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#3 posted 02-09-2010 12:48 AM

Alonso, yes you can set micro bevels with the Worksharp. It settings which allow you to grind your chisels and irons at 25, 30, and 35 degrees. So it is simply a matter of changing the setting to establish a microbevel unless, of course, you grind them at 25 degrees to begin with.

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#4 posted 02-09-2010 01:06 AM

At the woodworking school where I volunteer from time to time, I just finished sharpening all of their chisels using that Shapton stones. I’ll tell you that those stones, for not much work, put a ‘scary sharp’ edge on those chisels. Yes, we did the micro-bevels too.

I here at home use the same as a1jim! :)

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#5 posted 02-09-2010 01:26 AM

Don’t get me wrong but after watching the demo from worksharp, they said that you can fit iron blades up to 2” wide, that left behind blades for No 4-1/2, 5-1/2, 6, 7 which are 2 3/8” wide and No 8 which is 2 5/8” wide, all these blades will need to be done freehand on the upper area of the worksharp, so I think by what I saw that sharpening repeatability could be an issue, right? It seems to be a great machine but I don’t think that is what will fit into my shop needs.

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#6 posted 02-09-2010 01:45 AM

So, Jim and Scott… Worksharp is the way to go??? Looks like they sell from $200 to $250 for the Worksharp 3000. Is the 3000 much different from the 2000? Thanks for your thoughts!!

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#7 posted 02-09-2010 02:29 AM

Actually Alonso, the workshop 3000 has a wide tool add on that you can buy for around $70 that will do all of those blades.

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#8 posted 02-09-2010 02:40 AM

thanks for the information Padre, so actually I’ll end up paying over $300 for it so that I can have my blades sharpen, I think I’ll look for more information about the water stones. Thanks to all

Alonso

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#9 posted 02-09-2010 02:41 AM

I’m telling you those stones put a nice edge on. Make sure you also buy the carriage.

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#10 posted 02-09-2010 02:48 AM

shapton stones are the best, norton is second best and king is good to go same for the prices too me i use the king brand and i get a very sharp blade u can shave with. it really all in your method of sharpening u can use sandpaper and get the same results and i think that’s the cheapest too but to get started on the stones i would get king brand and go with 800,1200,6000 or 8000. i have the same stone grits but i want to get the 4000 to add to the collection just to go between the 12 and 8000. GOOD LUCK!

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#11 posted 02-09-2010 02:58 AM

I have the Worksharp 3000 and it is great for what it was intended to do, sharpen chisels and plane irons. Do not try to use it to sharpen lathe tools. It was not met for that. Another lesson I learned the hard way.

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#12 posted 02-09-2010 03:08 AM

I will sell you my Worksharp 3000. Make me an offer. I am nearby.

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#13 posted 02-09-2010 04:14 AM

I dunno, I find I spend as much time flattening my waterstones as I do sharpening with them. I have gravitated to getting a slab of granite and using the scary sharp method. You can get some super fine papers and get superb results.

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#14 posted 02-09-2010 05:56 PM

John,

Thanks for the offer, but I’m really looking for stone sharpening. The only method I’ve use before was the scary sharp, it gave me good results, I can’t complain about that, but I would like to try a new method.

bigike,

Where can I find the King stones? How do they compare with Norton water stones?

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#15 posted 02-09-2010 06:03 PM

I use the paper on glass method to prep new blades and to refurb old & beat up plane irons and chisels. From thence, I use King water stones. I get a lot of good use out of the Veritas MKII honing guide.

Remember to flatten and polish the backs of the irons and chisels before working on the bevel.

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