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Forum topic by ARCarpenter posted 02-05-2016 02:24 AM 1278 views 0 times favorited 36 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-05-2016 02:24 AM

Yes, I was just here asking about miter saws, but now I need help in deciding on a table saw. Weekend warrior type stuff. I don’t think I’ll need to be ripping full sheets of plywood. Mostly ripping down dimensional lumber. I’d like a good fence. Here are a couple of my options. These are about my price range.

Kobalt 10” Table Saw
http://www.lowes.com/pd_486267-52010-KT1015_1z0vivzZ1z0wck2__?productId=50056619&pl=1

Porter-Cable PCB222TS
http://www.lowes.com/pd_510902-46069-PCB222TS_1z0vivzZ1z0wck2__?productId=50146380&pl=1


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#1 posted 02-05-2016 02:34 AM

Neither of those. Pick up a craftmsan 113.xxx series saw, belt drive with the motor hanging off the back. You should be able to get one for $100-150. Add a link belt from harbor freight and maybe upgrade to a Delta T3 fence and you’re at the same price as above, but way better saw.

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#2 posted 02-05-2016 02:35 AM

Alot of people are going to comment telling you not to waste your time with portable saws, and to search craigslist for a used cabinet or contractor saw. Are you limited by space and do you want portability? Is a warranty important to you? If so, the portable saws might suit you better. Do you have the patience to search and wait for a good deal on CL to pop up, and possibly do a little work on a saw to get it running? If so, you might be happier with a used saw. It’s up to you to get what you want.

I’ve heard some really good things about the Delta portable saw. Some say that the Delta is the same saw as the Kobalt, but with better fit and finish, and quality control. It’s only $65 more than the Porter Cable.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Delta-10-in-Left-Tilt-Portable-Table-Saw-with-Stand-36-6020/206029310

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#3 posted 02-05-2016 02:58 AM

I would recommend the Ridgid R4510. I’ve had two of them (the first was hit by a car…not my car…long story…)

I really like it. Good fence, standard size miter slots. Nice guard. Even a pretty good miter guage. Oh, and a free push stick. All of the above store right on it. Usually between $300 and $400 at Home Depot.

-Brian

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#4 posted 02-05-2016 02:59 AM

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#5 posted 02-05-2016 03:06 AM

Like that one, but I wouldn’t pay $125 for that one. Missing the stand and it looks all clapped out.

The only advantage to going with the styles you listed in the first post is portability. If you aren’t going to be picking it up and moving it constantly, don’t waste your money.

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#6 posted 02-05-2016 03:15 AM

Clapped out?

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#7 posted 02-05-2016 03:23 AM

That thing looks like it was neglected. Missing the base, the top is rusty (not that big of a deal, though), fence is rusty.

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#8 posted 02-05-2016 04:01 AM

https://littlerock.craigslist.org/tld/5403045984.html

I believe people have been happy with these, if you could only get them to come down to a fair price.

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#9 posted 02-05-2016 05:46 AM

https://littlerock.craigslist.org/tld/5403045984.html
I believe people have been happy with these, if you could only get them to come down to a fair price.
- DirtyMike

That’s a 36-725. The ad says ”WE’RE ASKING JUST $500 FOR A SAW THAT RUNS &1,400.00 NEW!!!” (and they are a dealer, so I doubt they will go much less). It may be missing some stuff as well, as the blade guard and miter gauge is not shown in the photo. But unless you are a complete sucker that would actually pay $1400 for one, you can get one brand new at Lowes for $599 or even cheaper if you play your discounts right :) They have popped up around here on CL in the $400 or less range.

It would be substantially better than any of the portables mentioned above though. The portables are great for small stuff and occasional use, but their plastic motors will quickly tear themselves up with any sustained use or trying to push them too far. As pointed out, you can find delta or c-man contractor saws for the same price or less, and they have real induction motors, cast iron tops and beefier cabinets and internals.

Cheers,
Brad

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#10 posted 02-05-2016 05:55 AM

Yeah….I was gonna say, that’s NOT a $1400 saw….I wouldn’t buy from them because of the lie. They are $599 at Lowes if you can find them…..I believe they are being discontinued by Delta.

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#11 posted 02-05-2016 10:29 AM

Making Sense of Table Saw Classifications

This one is more expensive than the ones you were looking at, but it’s alot more saw. Biesemeyer fence, router table, mobile base, extras, plus it comes with a router that you could sell to offset cost.

This one comes with two motors.

This one says it needs a new motor….it may not….sometimes they just need a new capacitor or a good cleaning. (buy the saw above and this one….make two works saws saws and sell one!)

This one could be worth inquiring about…they don’t list a price, but at $200 is a sweet deal. I think the Alignarip fence is included, but ask to be sure.

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#12 posted 02-05-2016 11:31 AM



Alot of people are going to comment telling you not to waste your time with portable saws, and to search craigslist for a used cabinet [saw]....
- TheWoodRaccoon

Yep. heres why.
I am a design engineer who specializes in plastic and composite design in an industry that also uses tons of aluminum. Get my drift? I see plenty of tests that happen where the plastic snaps and the aluminum bends/breaks.

So let me lay it down for you. When it comes to a vacuum cleaner avoid cast iron like the plague (if that has ever been an option). You want your weight cut down because youre hauling it up and down stairs. If you are dealing in aircraft seats the same principal applies. Less weight = less fuel.

When looking at a table saw steel and cast iron are your friends.

It all comes down to time preference. I waited a long time to find mine but I dont have to worry about it. Its solid with not a lick of plastic on it. Aluminum?—the badges are aluminum. Wait, the fence lock knob is plastic [Mental note: make a steel fence lock knob].

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#13 posted 02-05-2016 05:30 PM

Design engineer, heh…
Do you know why steel in frame bicycles are preferred to the aluminum ? Because aluminum frames do not flex like the steel ones, so after some miles your butt feels like boxing punching bag. You want some flex in a bike, but not in a table saw. If designed by a designer who knows what he is doing aluminum equipment could be more preferable to the steel and cast iron (the former flexes, the latter crumbles like stale bread).
Even military often uses aluminum instead of steel for armored vehicles.
Oh by the way, look what so much revered here Delta 36-725 trunnions are made from. As for plastics. Festool track saws are considered to be the most accurate and are mostly made from plastic.

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#14 posted 02-05-2016 06:16 PM

I second the Ridgid R4510. A good portable saw.

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#15 posted 02-05-2016 06:41 PM


Alot of people are going to comment telling you not to waste your time with portable saws, and to search craigslist for a used cabinet [saw]....
- TheWoodRaccoon

Yep. heres why.
I am a design engineer who specializes in plastic and composite design in an industry that also uses tons of aluminum. Get my drift? I see plenty of tests that happen where the plastic snaps and the aluminum bends/breaks.

So let me lay it down for you. When it comes to a vacuum cleaner avoid cast iron like the plague (if that has ever been an option). You want your weight cut down because youre hauling it up and down stairs. If you are dealing in aircraft seats the same principal applies. Less weight = less fuel.

When looking at a table saw steel and cast iron are your friends.

It all comes down to time preference. I waited a long time to find mine but I dont have to worry about it. Its solid with not a lick of plastic on it. Aluminum?—the badges are aluminum. Wait, the fence lock knob is plastic [Mental note: make a steel fence lock knob].

- SirIrb

Hey, I didn’t mean to ruffle any feathers here, nor did i mean to knock cabinet saws or conractor saws, nor was i saying portable saws are better. All i was doing was letting him know what to expect out of this thread.

Now here’s my opinion: How much pressure do you think somebody is putting on their portable saw tops? You may have seen “alluminum” and “plastic” bend/ break, but under what kind of tests? How can you say with certainty that those tests reflect the durability of a portable saw made from those materials? I’ve never heard of anybody shattering or bending a portable saw or it’s parts under normal use. I don’t mean to challenge or start a war, i just want to know why you think portable saws are so dainty, when lots of people make great things with them. Obviously a cabinet saw is better, but it’s in another category. You wouldn’t compare a prius to a cadillac would you?

That’s all i’m sayin’, no hard feelings.

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