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Forum topic by mrblue posted 02-02-2016 01:24 PM 610 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-02-2016 01:24 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question tablesaw

hello, I moved to live in thailand and I am going to buy a tablesaw.
unfortunately there is not a huge selection available here! either very low quality models or very high end ones.
what I have been able to find are a 8” cabinet saw 1.5hp with sliding table which looks actually quite professional (500€)!

http://www.taradplaza.com/_tarad/_templates/b/_modules/view_image2.php?shopurl=brushcutter&picname=http://img.tarad.com/shop/b/brushcutter/img-lib/spd_20130915161558_b.jpg

and a 10” with sliding table, benchtop (with stand) 1500watt which looks like a low quality plastic cased entry level model (380€). (sorry no photo available, but it looks like a ryobi, or a skilsaw 3410)

prices are quite similar, but what concern me is the depth of cut.
the better one has 8” blade allowing a depth of cut of 60mm (just less than 2.5inch) while the other reach a 80+mm (3.15inch) depth of cut.
last option could be a 12”, 3hp contractor saw, reaching 105mm (4.15inch) of cut, but at double price of the cheapo one (850€)!!! no sliding table and table extensions with holes

http://www.taradplaza.com/_tarad/_templates/b/_modules/view_image2.php?shopurl=brushcutter&picname=http://img.tarad.com/shop/b/brushcutter/img-lib/spd_20130915162010_b.jpg

unfortunately I could not find anything comparable on the net, mainly because those models are available only in the far-east market.
my main worry is that with any jig, like a sled made with 20mm (3/4inch) plywood, the actual depth of cut would be limited to just 40mm with the better one.

thank you in advance for your help and suggestions.

EDIT: after many research, I have found three more options.

1- jet jts-10 at 250€. looks a very low quality model not even close to the much better JWTS-10
only pro I can see is the brand (the jts-600xm is out of reach at more than 1500€)

http://www.thaicarpenter.com/index.php?lay=show&ac=cat_show_pro_detail&pid=93198

2-makita MLT-100 (450€) I think it’s a well known one. from what I have read, you pay the brand and got no quality at all! I would skip this one.

3- BOYE 12”. looks exactly like the 850€ one I have already mention, but at 550€. it is an unknown brand, but I guess that many other well known brands are built by unknown companies in the far east
some photos here that maybe will let you connect it to a more known brand

http://www.thaicarpenter.com/index.php?lay=show&ac=cat_show_pro_detail&pid=305613

thank you again!
stefano


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#1 posted 02-03-2016 12:22 PM

What are you doing with it?

For me, not common to make cuts in wood over 1 1/2” thick if needed turn wood over and cut again.
If very very thick finish with hand saw.

What I’ m saying is you can get by the 8” saw. It looks like a good machine.

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#2 posted 02-03-2016 03:39 PM

nt

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#3 posted 02-03-2016 04:14 PM

I too rarely cut thicker than 1.50 inches. My money would go for quality over capacity.

You could build you sleds/ jigs from 1/2” plywood (if it is available in Thailand ) and still have 2” depth of cut.

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#4 posted 02-03-2016 09:48 PM

3- BOYE 12”. looks exactly like the 850€ one I have already mention, but at 550€. it is an unknown brand, but I guess that many other well known brands are built by unknown companies in the far east
some photos here that maybe will let you connect it to a more known brand

http://www.thaicarpenter.com/index.php?lay=show&ac=cat_show_pro_detail&pid=305613

thank you again!
stefano

- mrblue

This actually looks like a decent contractor saw belt driven with an induction not so weak motor and it is 12” !
Unlike others in this thread however I would advice against getting a saw with under 2” cut capacity. First you still do not know if the 8” saw is not a cheapo in a nice shiny packaging.

Secondly over 1.5” thick cuts are still very common in almost every shop. How are you going to make table or chair legs, cut 2×4, make butcher block countertops , cut mortises, with a 1.5” capable saw ?
When you need to make a beveled cut at 45 degrees your 1.5” becomes 1”, which limiting to say the least.

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#5 posted 02-04-2016 02:50 PM

first of all, thank you for all suggestions.

yes, here can find 1/2 inch ply. actually it is easier to find 4, 10 and 15mm than 20mm ply.
most built in cabinet makers here, build with 1/2 inch solid wood frame and then sandwich 4mm good quality ply. basically like hollow core panels.

after more research I found (for this market) an unbelievable cheap tablesaw, with 10” blade at 250€.
it is a belt driven 2200w 3hp, and it looks exactly like the boye 12”, but with smaller blade.

http://wuthardware.weloveshopping.com/store/product/view/TIGER_TBS_10G_%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%97%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%95%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%94%E0%B9%84%E0%B8%A1%E0%B9%89_10_2200W-13622259-en.html

this store has an equivalent model at twice the price, branded okura. if I’m not wrong I have seen huge professional products from this brand.
I’m still investigating, but until now, this and the boye 12” seems the most appealing ones.
same (almost sure) motor and construction, just different blade size and brand. I guess they come out from the same manufacturer

thank you again.
stefano

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#6 posted 02-05-2016 05:22 PM

at last… I now face two choices.

I (unbelievable) found the exact copy of the ridgid R4512! which would have been my first choice if available.
the one I have found is branded NASH, but it is like the ridgid in every detail, except the color, which is all dark gray. it has a 10” blade and 1500w motor. only difference are the two antikickback pawls, but I guess they just didn’t install them in the show unit. even the manual looks an exact copy of the ridgid I did download a while ago.

the other option is an exact copy of the boye tablesaw (branded again NASH) that I posted in the original topic, with 12” blade and 2200w belt driven motor.
their price is the same, so I guess the 10” ridgid like “should” be a bit better than the 12” 2200w one, but it is just a speculation.
actually we are not talking about well known brands and I am quite sure (99%) that the ridgid-like one comes from the same factory of the original ridgid, so I guess (still speculation) that it should be somehow better than the other. even if the table extension are not “solid”, but flat, compared to the “hole-filled-ones” of the other saw.
both saws are at a comparable price of +/- 550€

waiting for a last decision suggestion, I send my thanks again to all of you.
stefano

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#7 posted 02-13-2016 02:02 PM

at last. I finally bought the ridgid like one, which actually looks more like the craftsman. had to wait a week, but it is now assembled and ready to use.
apart the blade which is not for sure a quality one, the table saw looks really a quality product. I have never been able to see a craftsman for real, but from the video and photo on the net, I would bet it is exactly the same, except for the color.
I still have to set up the blade parallel. the first attempt was good at full raised blade, but when lowered to a 1 or 1/2 inch, it had 1 mm that still have to be fixed.
thank you all for your help.

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