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KyleesDad

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02-01-2016 05:36 PM

Topic tags/keywords: price question planer jointer bandsaw router

A friend of my father has some older woodworking tools he’d like to get rid of. He said for me to make him a reasonable offer, but I’m not sure where to start. I don’t want to offend him, yet I don’t want to spend too much.

Here is what he has.

Craftsman 12” belt drive Band Saw-Sander

Craftsman 6” Jointer-Planer 1 1/2 HP

Craftsman tabletop router table & router

Thanks for any information you can provide.

-- Mark, Florida, http://www.markjohnsondesigns.com


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HokieKen

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#1 posted 02-01-2016 05:46 PM

Sometimes the truth hurts. I just sold that router table with a better router to a fellow LJ for 40$. That bandsaw pops up ‘round here on CL fairly often in the $75-100 range. I don’t know what people actually pay for it. I don’t know about the jointer/planer but in general, the consensus seems to be that those combo machines are not desirable. Maybe the C-man is an exception?

IMHO, the bandsaw $75, the jointer/planer $150 (if it has good knives in it, $100-120 if not) and no more than $25 for the router/table. If there is a bunch of quality router bits that go with it, you might need to adjust your offer.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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MrUnix

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#2 posted 02-01-2016 06:03 PM

Router table and router is worth maybe $50 depending on the router and any accessories/bits included, and I see them all the time on CL for that price. If it’s the router I think it is, it’s only a 1/4” 1hp deal that you can find frequently in the $20-$40 range quite often. The table is not worth much, and I actually got two of those tables less the router for free :) The jointer is one of those cheap plastic body things that is only good for small stock and very occasional use – again, maybe $50 since it’s not a real desirable machine and has very short tables. It is good for a portable unit where you are doing construction type stuff though – it’s light weight and easily transportable from site to site. The band saw is worth $75-$100 in good running condition. IMO, $100 for the lot would be reasonable, with $200 being on the high side.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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KevinBlair

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#3 posted 02-01-2016 06:24 PM

I suggest that you search local craigslist and see if you can find similar machines and their asking prices. When you make your offer, show him the research you’ve done to determine the value of the tools. He should be good with the idea that you did your homework and you may actually be saving him time by offering a fair price w/o him having to do any work on his own.

I agree with the overall assessment of the tools: Router/table not worth much (35-50; depending on overall condition and that’s mostly for the router), Jointer 50-75—once you get above that you can find larger 6” jointers on CL (I have an old Buffalo Brand 6” one that I paid 85 for a few years ago), and the band saw—a new Rikon from Sears is about 185 (on sale); again, once you get over 100 there may be better CL options. Hope that helps.

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AlaskaGuy

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#4 posted 02-01-2016 06:59 PM

There nothing there I’d want if it were free.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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bigblockyeti

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#5 posted 02-01-2016 07:21 PM

+1 to post #1, maybe $100 for everything. The stuff was made to sell at a reasonable price when new vs. the far more expensive professional/industrial stuff by Delta, Powermatic and the like. They’re all pretty ubiquitous and there’s many tools like this on the market that people just don’t want anymore.

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TiggerWood

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#6 posted 02-01-2016 07:49 PM

If all in working condition.

What I typically see on CL (average): $80 bandsaw ; $60 Jointer ; $80 router and table – $240

Their actual perceived value from what I’ve heard and seen: $60 bandsaw ; $50 jointer ; $60 router and table – $170

What I would pay: $40 bandsaw ; $40 jointer ; $40 router and table – $120

If I were given one month to find these tools for the cheapest price possible: $40 bandsaw ; $40 jointer ; $50 router and table

Around my area, I never see a router for less than $25 and people must think the tables are made of gold. As a package deal, I think a fair price would be between $100 and $150. If these were my tools, I may feel a little insulted if I was offered only $100 for all three.

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#7 posted 02-01-2016 08:26 PM

Welcome to Ljs
These are what I consider very low-end tools and they don’t look very well cared for,are you sure you want those kind of tools.Unless you’re doing very small projects the jointer has to short of a bed ,like most bench top jointers. The router table is too small also. I guess if you don’t have a big budget these tools are better than nothing.
Bandsaw $75-$100 Jointer $40-$60 , the router and router table $30-$50.
If the seller has had these a long time chances are he thinks their worth a lot more.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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waho6o9

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#8 posted 02-01-2016 08:27 PM

keep your money

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KyleesDad

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#9 posted 02-01-2016 08:29 PM

Thanks everyone for their advice and estimates on the price. I have decided to pass on these pieces. Like most of you said, they’re low end and if I’m going to spend money on something old, I want it to be worth it.

-- Mark, Florida, http://www.markjohnsondesigns.com

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#10 posted 02-01-2016 08:30 PM

Sorry to disagree TiggerWood but that router and router table is not worth $120 a new craftsman is less than that.

http://www.craftsman.com/router-and-router-table-combo/p-00937595000P?sid=IDxCMDFx20140801x001&KPID=00937595000

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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KyleesDad

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#11 posted 02-08-2016 05:46 PM

Wanted to provide a final update. Thanks to everyone for their advice.
He was looking to get rid of this stuff quick because he’s selling his house so I through out an offer of $160 and he took it. That also included a stationary disk/belt sander (see below). Basically I got everything for $40 each. Not too shabby for a nice start to my workshop.

-- Mark, Florida, http://www.markjohnsondesigns.com

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HokieKen

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#12 posted 02-08-2016 05:58 PM

The sander looks like a good piece so for $160 I’d say both parties got a fair shake. Enjoy it!

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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dhazelton

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#13 posted 02-08-2016 06:37 PM

Good deal – obviously he wasn’t insulted since he gave you one more tool for the price. The band saw is more capable than people give it credit for. The 6 inch short bed jointer is cast, not plastic like someone suggested, and if the tables are aligned and the blades sharp it’s a good little worker. I have one of those older belt/disc sanders and it’s great. I’d take the router out of the table and use it as a handheld. Enjoy your new toys.

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Fred Hargis

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#14 posted 02-08-2016 06:42 PM



Sorry to disagree TiggerWood but that router and router table is not worth $120 a new craftsman is less than that.

http://www.craftsman.com/router-and-router-table-combo/p-00937595000P?sid=IDxCMDFx20140801x001&KPID=00937595000

- a1Jim

Go back and look at the post again, the $120 was for everything.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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MrUnix

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#15 posted 02-08-2016 07:47 PM

The 6 inch short bed jointer is cast, not plastic like someone suggested, and if the tables are aligned and the blades sharp it s a good little worker.
- dhazelton

I’d be interested in hearing the OP confirm the cast iron base… My BIL had one of those jointers, but it was a Geetech (who made them for several other ‘brand’ names including Sears AFAIK). There are several reviews of it here on LJ, such as this one this one for a Geetech and this one for a Sunhill branded one. Plastic base with cast iron tables and an extruded aluminium fence. For what they are, they work very well – but even new, they were not very expensive (~$100 give or take depending on where you got it and what brand it had on it).

Cheers,
Brad

Edit: I had one of those 4” craftsman things as well, but probably made in the 80’s – and it was a plastic base as well. It got trashed by Hurricane Andrew fortunately :) I don’t think I’ve ever seen one of the little benchtops that had a cast iron base.

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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