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bmalloy

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01-31-2016 05:15 AM

Topic tags/keywords: walnut arm-r-seal

Hi, I am attempting to make my first table. Here is a post w/ some pics: http://lumberjocks.com/bmalloy/blog/77226

So I purchased a can of arm-r-seal because of all the positive things I have read. I am not a fan of glossy things so I got a can of satin. I also read that I can skip the seal-a-cell if I cut the arm-r with 20% mineral spirits. I was planning on doing one coat with the cut arm-r-seal and then apply 2 or so more at full strength.

I am wondering if all that satin is gonna hide the black walnut more than I want?

I will do a few test sections at the bottom of the desk… i just don’t know if all that satin is a bad thing and I shouldn’t bother.


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DMC1903

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#1 posted 01-31-2016 05:22 AM

The satin Arm-a-Seal will look very nice on the walnut, follow the directions on the container. Do Not dilute!!!

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#2 posted 01-31-2016 05:25 AM

I am fond of some natural color danish oil with 3 coats of Arm R Seal over that. I too prefer a non glossy surface.

Brian

-- Part of engineering is to know when to put your calculator down and pick up your tools.

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#3 posted 01-31-2016 01:18 PM



I am fond of some natural color danish oil with 3 coats of Arm R Seal over that. I too prefer a non glossy surface.

Brian

- bbasiaga


I like the medium walnut Danish oil with arm-r-seal on it.

I have done 9 coats on a window sill and it still looks great.

This pic is of the top of a radiator cover, 4 coats of satin.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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jdmaher

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#4 posted 01-31-2016 03:06 PM

Don’t dilute Arm-R-Seal.

I only use a sealer if I have to. I infrequently will dye or even less frequently stain, but I often will use an oil to enhance grain and/or color. If I do any of that, I put a coat or two of 1 lb. shellac on top of it, to seal between finishes. Then the Arm-R-Seal.

But if I’m NOT staining or oiling the bare wood, I go straight to Arm-R-Seal – UN-diluted.

I usually use a couple coats of gloss, then a satin. But I’ve done three coats of satin and was quite happy.

-- Jim Maher, Illinois

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bmalloy

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#5 posted 01-31-2016 07:29 PM

Thanks DMC1903, bbasiaga, RobS888, and jdmaher!

I’ve done 0 finishing before so it is nice to read it is ok it go right at it.

I guess the idea of diluting it is to mirror the diluted seal-a-cell for a first deep soak. The pdf info for the products says you can dilute it: “Reducer/Thinner: Mineral Spirits (10 -20%) if necessary”. I have also seen Charles Neil mention soaking 15-20% to get a deep soak. I guess I run the risk of making it too thin and having it run off the table? Are these the reasons you guys are against the idea?

https://generalfinishes.com/sites/default/files/file_downloads/Tech-Data-GF-Arm-R-Seal-050311.pdf

Thanks again.

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jdmaher

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#6 posted 01-31-2016 07:56 PM

To me, in my environment, Arm-R-Seal goes on easily (no streaks or brush marks), self-levels and leaves a pretty smooth film surface. That is, I like how I use it, how it goes on. Thinning would change the way it “works” / goes on.

Although everything soaks in to bare wood, somewhat, if I really want penetration to enhance color or make the grain “pop”, I use an oil (e.g., Watco, Waterlox) – then seal that with shellac before Arm-R-Seal.

-- Jim Maher, Illinois

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