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Forum topic by Peter Oxley posted 11-15-2007 04:00 PM 1190 views 0 times favorited 24 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Peter Oxley

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11-15-2007 04:00 PM

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Every time I see a tree down, I ask about it. I’m just sure I’m going to mill it and find a hidden gem. But invariably they are going to use it for firewood. 12 Black Walnuts came down near here recently. The biggest had a trunk that was straight for at least 12 feet, and was probably three feet across the cut. Firewood.

There is an old oak that was cut down three years ago laying in a ditch. The trunk is at least four feet diameter. It’s laying there rotting, but one of these days the owner is going to get around to cutting it up for firewood.

The valley I live in used to be well-known for the orchards. There was a nearly continuous ring of orchards all around the foothills. Apple and Cherry, mostly. When the fruit prices went in the tank several years ago, 90% of the orchards were torn out for grain fields and subdivisions. The trees were pulled out with Cats. A few owners let people come cut for (you guessed it) firewood, but most heaped the trees in the middle of the clearing and burned them.

However, someone finally gave me some wood the other day! He said, “I’ve got two little pieces of Mahogany, not enough to do anything with. Do you want them?” I was envisioning scrap-bin sized pieces, but still said I would like to have them. We walked out to his shop and he handed me two boards 8” wide and 6’ long! That’s 7+ BF. Nothing to sneeze at.

So I have finally joined the elite group of woodworkers to whom wood has been given, free of charge! And I didn’t even have to beg!

-- http://www.peteroxley.com -- http://north40studios.etsy.com --


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Daren Nelson

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#1 posted 11-15-2007 04:57 PM

”12 Black Walnuts came down near here recently. The biggest had a trunk that was straight for at least 12 feet, and was probably three feet across the cut. Firewood.” Quote
Assuming some taper I will call that one 3 feet across at the bottom a 32” top log, that is about 600 bft. I have been selling wide walnut (anything over 12”) for $7.00 bft=$4200…I hope they stay warm. I want to throw up when I hear stories like that.
I custom saw for $.35 bft and kiln dry for the same $. If someone were to bring me that log they would have $420 invested in $4200 worth of lumber. $3780 (profit if they sold the lumber) would buy alot of propane/electric to heat with. And 600 bft of walnut would make a woodworker or 2 happy.
Why are people so wasteful ?

-- http://nelsonwoodworks.biz/

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john

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#2 posted 11-15-2007 06:04 PM

I see the same thing in my area but with barns.
They would rather stick a match to it then to take it a part and reuse the lumber.
Anytime i see a barn falling down i go and ask for it.
I have cleaned up 3 barns in the last 2 years.

-- John in Belgrave (Website) http://www.extremebirdhouse.com , http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=112698715866

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Douglas Bordner

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#3 posted 11-15-2007 06:06 PM

Daren, I’m with you. If I ever hit the lottery and buy an acreage, I’m going to be salvaging these beauties gone to waste. Please don’t tell me there were Pear trees out there burning in the pile.

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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Dadoo

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#4 posted 11-16-2007 12:12 AM

I know…I was so sad when I saw the road crews hauling away this huge old maple…I wanted it so bad but couldn’t get it into the trunk of my wifes car! The pieces were like 4’ around! Real old growth stuff here boys. What I need is a buddy with a big truck and a sawmill.

-- Bob Vila would be so proud of you!

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Thos. Angle

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#5 posted 11-16-2007 01:02 AM

I think Daren will agree with me when I say those barn yard and town trees can sure be hard on saws. When I was a kid the sawmills wouldn’t cut a tree that came from the barnyard or from in town. Too many farmers picked up a loose horseshoe or piece of log chain and threw it into the crotch of a tree. Those and wire and nails are grown into a lot of the urban logs out there. We didn’t used to have metal detectors.

-- Thos. Angle, Jordan Valley, Oregon

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dustynewt

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#6 posted 11-16-2007 02:07 AM

We drove past a house today that was having a large oak removed. The trunk was well over 3’ thick. The tree service was chipping everything less than 12” in diameter. Everything larger was cut in chunks so large two people couldn’t move them. No splitter. They pick these up with a crane/backhoe thing and take them to the landfill. Standard operation procedure in these parts. I stopped to see if they had anything left a woodworker might use. Nope. I asked if they had cut up any for firewood, thinking that I might find SOMETHING I could use and burn the rest. No!
I know I live in Florida, but we do have 30+ days a year that are cold enough (60 degrees or less) to have a fire if you have a fireplace, we have two. There are many folks with fireplaces here but no one even selling firewood except the grocery and discount stores at $6.00 an armful. Am I missing something here? No mills in the yellow pages? No firewood in the winter? (I called all the tree services) There is a special place in hell for folks that bury perfectly good oak (and many other more precious species I’m sure) along with Ho-Ho wrappers and half-eaten frozen dinners. Let them fry.

-- Peace in Wood ~ http://dustynewt.com/

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Daren Nelson

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#7 posted 11-16-2007 02:29 AM

”There is a special place in hell for folks that bury perfectly good oak (and many other more precious species I’m sure) along with Ho-Ho wrappers and half-eaten frozen dinners. Let them fry.” Quote

Wow dustynewt, we could be twins. I try to keep restrained about my thought on the subject (it bounces off too many thick skulls). You said a mouthful though, I could not agree more.

Thos.Angle, yea I have sawed my fair share of metal…maybe more than my share. But when I open a curly maple/curly walnut/curly cherry..I just keep pushing. Here is a curly walnut I just milled that had a couple nails in it (rough sawn,not my log, I wish it was I sawed it for someone else right out of his front yard)

curly walnut

-- http://nelsonwoodworks.biz/

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Thos. Angle

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#8 posted 11-16-2007 04:08 AM

Thats some good looking stuff, Daren.

-- Thos. Angle, Jordan Valley, Oregon

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Brad_Nailor

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#9 posted 11-16-2007 05:48 AM

Wow,Daren..do you ship? Thats some ridiculous looking walnut.

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Karson

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#10 posted 11-16-2007 06:21 AM

Thats like my blog on $16,000 worth of Sapel and Mahogany firewood, that I saw a week ago. I haven’t gotten back to see them to see if I can trade a cord of firewood for their stash.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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Daren Nelson

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#11 posted 11-16-2007 06:26 AM

yea David, I do ship. Unfortunately that wood in the picture is not mine, a guy payed me to mill it/dry it. That was only about 200 bft, so he paid $140 for it…I would not take a dime less that $15 bft for it if it was mine (it was WAY killer, the pictures suck) $3000, it was all 12” wide super curly and clear.
He is going to store it his basement, he is not a woodworker. At least he did not burn it for firewood and I got to see inside of it.

-- http://nelsonwoodworks.biz/

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Peter Oxley

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#12 posted 11-16-2007 08:18 AM

John and Douglas – Barn wood is actually very popular around here, especially for craft projects. We have an old, old barn on our place which we are trying very hard to maintain in an upright condition. Despite the evidence of restoration work, we frequently have people stop to “offer” to tear it down for us. We’re lucky, though – we know people who have had boards stolen off the sides of their old barns – barns they are still using for their farming operations!

Douglas – A few pears around here, but not a lot. Mostly apples and cherries – oh, and peaches. Anyone ever worked peach wood?

Karson – Offering to trade for a cord or two of firewood is a great idea! I’m going to offer that next time.

-- http://www.peteroxley.com -- http://north40studios.etsy.com --

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MsDebbieP

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#13 posted 11-16-2007 02:06 PM

Dustynewt – sounds like a business opportunity .. work in partnership with the city, they let you take the wood.. you cut it up.. sell it.. .use it..

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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dustynewt

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#14 posted 11-16-2007 03:59 PM

Ms. Debbie – The thought has crossed my mind. The main hold back is that I am not a young man anymore, it would be some hard and heavy work. Also, don’t have the 20k or so handy that it would take for equipment. Somebody should do it though. I’ll start contacting some people. Thanks.

-- Peace in Wood ~ http://dustynewt.com/

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MsDebbieP

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#15 posted 11-16-2007 08:17 PM

all businesses need a business manager—find a partner who can do the lugging :)

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (https://www.facebook.com/DebbiePribeleENJOConsultant)

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