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KYSean

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01-27-2016 11:18 PM

I’m almost ready to pull the trigger on a Hammer Jointer/Planer. I can’t decide on the A3-26 or A3-31. I measured all the wood I have and (approx 500bf) and only two boards are larger than 10 inches and of those two, they are over 12 inches wide. The price difference with both having the silent cutter head is about 600.00 between the two but I would have to put in a new breaker,wire and outlet if I went the 12” route.

It’s already tough putting up the money for either but I really could use a Plane/Jointer to replace the Jointer and lunch box Planer I have now. The price/quality of the Hammer is acceptable to me.

I’m not sure if I would regret the 26 and wish I had ordered the 31 or not. Does anyone have either and care to tell me your pro’s and con’s with either. Thanks, Sean

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Andre

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#1 posted 01-27-2016 11:25 PM

Have you looked at the Rikon 25-200HC, Looks like a decent machine?
Or the Grizzly G0634Z?

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KYSean

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#2 posted 01-28-2016 12:55 AM



Have you looked at the Rikon 25-200HC, Looks like a decent machine?
Or the Grizzly G0634Z?

- Andre


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KYSean

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#3 posted 01-28-2016 12:56 AM

I’m not a fan of the Rikon and the way it’s built and the Grizzly won’t be in until sometime in April or later.

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#4 posted 01-28-2016 08:45 AM

Or the Jet JJP 12-HH. If you happen to be in the PNW, Jet and Powermatic have an outlet in Auburn, south of Seattle. Seattle CL runs their ads often, and that’s how I got my machine at a really excellent price. Like it a lot!

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KYSean

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#5 posted 01-28-2016 12:56 PM



Or the Jet JJP 12-HH. If you happen to be in the PNW, Jet and Powermatic have an outlet in Auburn, south of Seattle. Seattle CL runs their ads often, and that s how I got my machine at a really excellent price. Like it a lot!

- runswithscissors


I’m on the other side of the country. Thanks though…

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#6 posted 01-28-2016 01:12 PM

I’m in NH and a proud owner of the Jet – good quality machine and very easy to switch operation from planer to jointer.

-- Bernie: It never gets hot or cold in New Hampshire, just seasonal!

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#7 posted 01-28-2016 01:25 PM

I’m reading all the replies and wondering why no one so far has even mentioned the Hammer. So I looked up quite a few reviews on a couple sites. Meh…hit and miss.

And apparently, (although I know nothing about these machines or the company), their customer service seems to vary from excellent to absolutely horrendous including refusal to refund a deposit when the customer changed his mind before shipping. And the good reviews seemed to mostly revolve around the 31 model, with helix blades.

I have no idea how accurate these reviews are, (they span over three years), but there were enough bad ones that if I was looking into one of these, I’d start looking elsewhere.

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#8 posted 01-28-2016 01:27 PM



I m almost ready to pull the trigger on a Hammer Jointer/Planer. I can t decide on the A3-26 or A3-31. I measured all the wood I have and (approx 500bf) and only two boards are larger than 10 inches and of those two, they are over 12 inches wide. The price difference with both having the silent cutter head is about 600.00 between the two but I would have to put in a new breaker,wire and outlet if I went the 12” route.

It s already tough putting up the money for either but I really could use a Plane/Jointer to replace the Jointer and lunch box Planer I have now. The price/quality of the Hammer is acceptable to me.

I m not sure if I would regret the 26 and wish I had ordered the 31 or not. Does anyone have either and care to tell me your pro s and con s with either. Thanks, Sean

- KYSean

I have the A3-26. I did the same thing you did and went back and forth on the 31 and the 26. I even made cardboard box shape cut outs of the machines to check for best fit in the shop. Finally went with the 26.

Being honest with myself, I really don’t ever plane anything wider than 8”-10”. Like ever. I can think of maybe 3 times in the past 15 years I’ve actually needed to plane a 12” board. Anything that big in my shop, either it’s a big glue-up piece that way to big to run through any planer, or it’s a plywood panel.

As far as jointing, I don’t even know anyone who needs a 12” jointer. To me that just seems silly. I’m sure there’s a valid reason for having that capacity, but I can’t think of it. 8” does 99.9999% of what anyone would need.

Table length is a non-issue with the Hammers since they’re set-up for table extensions on both ends AND the planer outfeed table. You can buy Hammer’s or you can make your own out of wood. either work.

Width wise, the A3-26 machine body is almost exactly 2” narrower than the A3-31 (duh) but what they don’t tell you about is that you can STORE the machine up against the wall, but you have to OPERATE it away from the wall in order to accommodate the fence bracket. So 2” wider becomes 4” wider, and that’s why Hammer’s mobility kit rolls sideways instead of front/back. You also need some room behind the machine to work the dust flex pipe back and forth as you switch from J to P, so anything less than 6” clear is impractical. Maybe not a big deal for a big shop, but in a small shop, 4” of extra floor space matters. For me, it was the difference between being able to walk between my JP and table saw.

Power and cost wise, you’re dead right. It costs about 1/2 as much in materials to wire an A3-26 to a 20A 220V line instead of the 30A for the A3-31. Also worth noting is that if you go straight blade, the 3 blade set for a the A3-26 is less than $35. that’s not bad even for a lunchbox planer.

I do not think you would regret either machine. But I (personally) saw no need to spend the extra cash on the A3-31 for capacity that I’m practically never going to need or use and to not be able to walk around my shop easily.

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KYSean

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#9 posted 01-28-2016 01:55 PM



I m in NH and a proud owner of the Jet – good quality machine and very easy to switch operation from planer to jointer.

- Bernie


I’ve heard good things about the Jet but I can get the Hammer for the same current price as the Jet. As a side note, I have family in the Lake Sunapee area, spent a lot of time up there many years ago. NH is a beautiful part of the country.

-- http://editedwrite.com

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KYSean

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#10 posted 01-28-2016 01:57 PM


I m almost ready to pull the trigger on a Hammer Jointer/Planer. I can t decide on the A3-26 or A3-31. I measured all the wood I have and (approx 500bf) and only two boards are larger than 10 inches and of those two, they are over 12 inches wide. The price difference with both having the silent cutter head is about 600.00 between the two but I would have to put in a new breaker,wire and outlet if I went the 12” route.

It s already tough putting up the money for either but I really could use a Plane/Jointer to replace the Jointer and lunch box Planer I have now. The price/quality of the Hammer is acceptable to me.

I m not sure if I would regret the 26 and wish I had ordered the 31 or not. Does anyone have either and care to tell me your pro s and con s with either. Thanks, Sean

- KYSean

I have the A3-26. I did the same thing you did and went back and forth on the 31 and the 26. I even made cardboard box shape cut outs of the machines to check for best fit in the shop. Finally went with the 26.

Being honest with myself, I really don t ever plane anything wider than 8”-10”. Like ever. I can think of maybe 3 times in the past 15 years I ve actually needed to plane a 12” board. Anything that big in my shop, either it s a big glue-up piece that way to big to run through any planer, or it s a plywood panel.

As far as jointing, I don t even know anyone who needs a 12” jointer. To me that just seems silly. I m sure there s a valid reason for having that capacity, but I can t think of it. 8” does 99.9999% of what anyone would need.

Table length is a non-issue with the Hammers since they re set-up for table extensions on both ends AND the planer outfeed table. You can buy Hammer s or you can make your own out of wood. either work.

Width wise, the A3-26 machine body is almost exactly 2” narrower than the A3-31 (duh) but what they don t tell you about is that you can STORE the machine up against the wall, but you have to OPERATE it away from the wall in order to accommodate the fence bracket. So 2” wider becomes 4” wider, and that s why Hammer s mobility kit rolls sideways instead of front/back. You also need some room behind the machine to work the dust flex pipe back and forth as you switch from J to P, so anything less than 6” clear is impractical. Maybe not a big deal for a big shop, but in a small shop, 4” of extra floor space matters. For me, it was the difference between being able to walk between my JP and table saw.

Power and cost wise, you re dead right. It costs about 1/2 as much in materials to wire an A3-26 to a 20A 220V line instead of the 30A for the A3-31. Also worth noting is that if you go straight blade, the 3 blade set for a the A3-26 is less than $35. that s not bad even for a lunchbox planer.

I do not think you would regret either machine. But I (personally) saw no need to spend the extra cash on the A3-31 for capacity that I m practically never going to need or use and to not be able to walk around my shop easily.

- Sundowner


I’m going with the silent cutter head but I do see your point about the 10” compared to the 12” capacity and size of machine. My shop is only 20×20 so space is important.

-- http://editedwrite.com

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#11 posted 01-28-2016 04:26 PM


I m in NH and a proud owner of the Jet – good quality machine and very easy to switch operation from planer to jointer.

- Bernie

I ve heard good things about the Jet but I can get the Hammer for the same current price as the Jet. As a side note, I have family in the Lake Sunapee area, spent a lot of time up there many years ago. NH is a beautiful part of the country.

- KYSean


Pretty soon the Jet will be 15% off with free shipping they do that twice a year.

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#12 posted 01-28-2016 04:34 PM

I’ve had the A3-31 with the silent head for almost a year now. I haven’t needed the 12” jointing ability yet, but I wanted to replace my planer as well. I’ve used the 12” planing ability a few times, especially with glue-ups. For me, a 10” planer is just too narrow.

As well, my A3-31 runs great on a 20A circuit. The specs only call for a 20A circuit, at least with the silent head.

Definitely get the digital hand wheel (very accurate) and one bed extension. I use my extension of the out-feed side the planer so I don’t have to race around to grab the piece as it comes out.

btw, my shop is only 18×24

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KYSean

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#13 posted 01-28-2016 08:01 PM



I ve had the A3-31 with the silent head for almost a year now. I haven t needed the 12” jointing ability yet, but I wanted to replace my planer as well. I ve used the 12” planing ability a few times, especially with glue-ups. For me, a 10” planer is just too narrow.

As well, my A3-31 runs great on a 20A circuit. The specs only call for a 20A circuit, at least with the silent head.

Definitely get the digital hand wheel (very accurate) and one bed extension. I use my extension of the out-feed side the planer so I don t have to race around to grab the piece as it comes out.

btw, my shop is only 18×24

- theotherken


How long was the power cord for your machine?

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