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ThunderCracker

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01-26-2016 04:51 PM

I have sold my base model cheap skill table saw and would like to buy a better quality table saw with more features. I have been reading and watching reviews but it all seems like older model saws. Can some of the veteran wood workers help a newbie out. I would like to purchase something in the middle of the road price range. I am just looking to do projects for the house and such. I would love the best but with kids that’s not in the cards right now. Looking for a good quality saw.

Thanks in advance,
David


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MadMark

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#1 posted 01-26-2016 04:59 PM

Grizzly.com G0715P hybrid cabinet saw

M

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#2 posted 01-26-2016 05:30 PM

A couple of questions are in order – Do you have 220v available? What’s your max budget?

Some reading...

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#3 posted 01-26-2016 05:35 PM

A couple of questions are in order – Do you have 220v available? What s your max budget?
- knotscott

And are you dead set on new, or do you want to get significantly more bang for your buck looking for used?
(For the price of that Griz import Mark points to, you could get a pretty nice cabinet saw with money left over for lots of other stuff!)

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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716

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#4 posted 01-26-2016 09:34 PM


A couple of questions are in order – Do you have 220v available? What s your max budget?
- knotscott

And are you dead set on new, or do you want to get significantly more bang for your buck looking for used?
(For the price of that Griz import Mark points to, you could get a pretty nice cabinet saw with money left over for lots of other stuff!)

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix

But be prepared to spend countless days scanning through craigslist to the point of obsession, driving to neighboring towns only to discover that the pile of cra^**P come with cracked lift mechanism …
It might take you some time to get that dream tool( someone reported a few days back he spent 18 months looking for a saw). Once you finally bring it home figure out where to find the replacement parts that the stuff you brought home were missing, and how to work safely without safety features that older saws usually do not have.
You also need to redesign your working space as the saw you brought came with 7 feet fence rails, which you do not need but will not cut as the long rails are more expensive. Also put aside $500 to $1000 for adding 240V in your place as no 120V saws were available on craigslist.

After all this efforts the table saw will become the essence of your existence and you will keep looking even though you already have one.
You may postpone your woodworking projects for a while. Who needs them when chasing a table saw is so much more interesting.

-- It's nice!

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MadMark

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#5 posted 01-26-2016 10:00 PM

The griz G0715P retails for $850 + delivery.

It was said:
(For the price of that Griz import Mark points to, you could get a pretty nice cabinet saw with money left over for lots of other stuff!)

Really MrUnix? Show us the new ‘or used pretty nice cabinet saw’ that will leave lots of money left over from $850? Or are you just talking thru your hat?

M

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ThunderCracker

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#6 posted 01-26-2016 10:24 PM



A couple of questions are in order – Do you have 220v available? What s your max budget?

Some reading...

- knotscott

Currently 220v is not available, but I have a friend that’s a master electrician. I would like to stay under 1k. Thanks for any help, and I’ll get reading the link you provided.

- David

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ThunderCracker

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#7 posted 01-26-2016 10:27 PM



A couple of questions are in order – Do you have 220v available? What s your max budget?
- knotscott

And are you dead set on new, or do you want to get significantly more bang for your buck looking for used?
(For the price of that Griz import Mark points to, you could get a pretty nice cabinet saw with money left over for lots of other stuff!)

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix

I’m not against getting a used saw. I don’t know brands or models to be looking for though. Can you recommend any?

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knotscott

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#8 posted 01-26-2016 11:12 PM

220v is never a bad thing, but it’s probably not necessary to go to the trouble or expense unless you get a saw (or other machine) that’s a true 2hp or more. (...or if you have a 120v circuit that’s not quite up to par). If you find a great deal on a used 3hp Unisaw or PM66, yeah….you’ll want 220v.

I’d strongly recommend going with a full size stationary saw (all can be set on a mobile and fairly easily rolled around the shop…some even come with wheels), unless you need to schlep the saw from jobsite to jobsite. For a new 120v saw < $1k, that puts into the hybrid style contractor saws and some hybrids. The industrial 3hp cabinet saws start closer to $1500. The usual entry level candidates will be the Delta 36-725 from Lowes at $550-$600…good steel t-square fence, stamped steel wings, with built in wheels, the Ridgid R4512 or nearly identical Craftsman 21833…aluminum fence, stamped steel wings, and built in wheels – you should do your own research, but some of the latter two saws have a history of an alignment issue….not all are effected, and rumor has it the issue has been corrected, so if you get a good one you’re fine. The next step up includes the hybrids with a full enclosure….Grizzly G0771 with solid cast wings, cabinet mounted trunnions, and aluminum fence, or the G0715P with solid cast wings and a steel t-square fence. The Craftsman 22116 made by Steel City/Orion also has a full enclosure, cabinet mounted trunnions, solid granite top, and steel t-square fence…it goes on sale within budget, but is worth noting that Steel City is no longer in business (or at least that what’s most of us believe ;-). Saws like the Jet Proshop are bit out of budget even on sale, and begin to push the price range of a Grizzly industrial cabinet saw. Saw Stop will inevitably come up…the basic full size contractor saw starts at ~ $1700 with a very modest aluminum fence and stamped steel wings..better fence and cast wings push it to ~ $2k. They also have a portable jobsite saw for ~ $1300.

Any of those saws should do quite well for general hobby work once setup and running well, and fitted with a decent blade (save the stock blade for junk cuts). Decent blades start at ~ $30 and go up upwards of $150….you don’t need to spend $100 to get a good blade, but you should upgrade from the stock blade IMO to get the most from your saw.

As far as used saws go….there are some great deals to had if you’re in the right place at the right time. It’s worth keeping tabs on the used market while you shop and research new saws….ya never know. Any full size contractor saw, hybrid, or cabinet saw from a reputable name will have potential…Delta, Powermatic, Jet, Grizzly, Shop Fox, Ridgid, Craftsman, old Rockwell, Bridgewood, and others could be good…it really depends on the particular saw and the condition. It’s probably easiest for you to list your nearest city, and some of the folks here might have something or spot something for you, as opposed to giving specific recommendations to hunt for.

Good luck and please keep us posted!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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MrUnix

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#9 posted 01-26-2016 11:56 PM

Really MrUnix? Show us the new or used pretty nice cabinet saw that will leave lots of money left over from $850? Or are you just talking thru your hat?
- MadMark

LOL – Yeah, that’s what I’m doing… despite the countless threads here and on other forums proving just that. I know you choose to ignore them, but they are out there, are abundant, and most can be had for significantly less than $850.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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MadMark

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#10 posted 01-27-2016 12:57 AM

Show me. That mythical saw. You going to suggest a rusted solid $50 saw? A used powermatic 66? Why are you telling the man to burden himself with someone else’s problem?

Buy new, it comes with a warranty, tech/parts support, it will be delivered to your door and if it breaks or is misaligned you have someone to blame other thsn yourself.

Spend a little $ and get a new tool.

(Hrumph!)

M

-- Madmark - Madmark2150@yahoo.com Wiretreefarm.com

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MrUnix

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#11 posted 01-27-2016 01:07 AM

Show me. That mythical saw.

Well, since you asked so nicely :)

Here is mine:

Not shown is the commercial Biesemeyer fence and rails (BC50) and Biesemeyer overarm guard that came with it (which I haven’t put on yet due to some temporary space constraints).

Or how about the most recent entry around here… Holbs $500 Unisaw. And there are plenty more examples floating around if you bother to look.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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ThunderCracker

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#12 posted 01-27-2016 01:20 AM


As far as used saws go….there are some great deals to had if you re in the right place at the right time. It s worth keeping tabs on the used market while you shop and research new saws….ya never know. Any full size contractor saw, hybrid, or cabinet saw from a reputable name will have potential…Delta, Powermatic, Jet, Grizzly, Shop Fox, Ridgid, Craftsman, old Rockwell, Bridgewood, and others could be good…it really depends on the particular saw and the condition. It s probably easiest for you to list your nearest city, and some of the folks here might have something or spot something for you, as opposed to giving specific recommendations to hunt for.

Good luck and please keep us posted!

- knotscott

I live in Madison Alabama which is right next to Huntsville. I really appreciate all the info you have provided me. Are people finding these good deals on Craigslist mostly?

David

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TheFridge

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#13 posted 01-27-2016 01:33 AM

Check Gulfport and New Orleans craigslist.

Edit: I thought it said mobile. Have no idea where Madison or Huntsville is.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#14 posted 01-27-2016 01:33 AM

Hah! 716, this CL table saw doomsday prophecy doesn’t sound very enticing… I went to CL once and found a nice and capable 6” jointer for about $120, it was sweet, I then had a jointer.

But be prepared to spend countless days scanning through craigslist to the point of obsession, driving to neighboring towns only to discover that the pile of cra^**P come with cracked lift mechanism …
It might take you some time to get that dream tool( someone reported a few days back he spent 18 months looking for a saw). Once you finally bring it home figure out where to find the replacement parts that the stuff you brought home were missing, and how to work safely without safety features that older saws usually do not have.
You also need to redesign your working space as the saw you brought came with 7 feet fence rails, which you do not need but will not cut as the long rails are more expensive. Also put aside $500 to $1000 for adding 240V in your place as no 120V saws were available on craigslist.

After all this efforts the table saw will become the essence of your existence and you will keep looking even though you already have one.
You may postpone your woodworking projects for a while. Who needs them when chasing a table saw is so much more interesting.

- 716


-- Hoopty scoop?

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ThunderCracker

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#15 posted 01-27-2016 02:16 AM



Check Gulfport and New Orleans craigslist.

Edit: I thought it said mobile. Have no idea where Madison or Huntsville is.

- TheFridge

I am in North Alabama, 20 mins from Tenn state line.

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