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Forum topic by Walrus102882 posted 01-25-2016 03:00 PM 470 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Walrus102882

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01-25-2016 03:00 PM

Hello,

I’m curious if any one knows of a service that will assist you in aligning your new table saw (first saw). I recently started my first project on my new saw (entry way table similar to one i saw on here) and i had a little issue squaring up the table legs. I followed the alignment instructions in the manual when setting the saw up, even bought a dial indicator to ensure the most accurate results as possible. I know that i will need to upgrade my fence and miter gauge in the future, but for the time being i would like to produce the best results i can with what i have. Since this is the first time i every aligned a table saw, perhaps i have missed a step or do not have the correct technique to achieve good results. Most of what i learned about aligning a saw i found here. So this brings me to my question, is there a service i could utilize that would assist my in aligning the saw or perhaps a group of wood workers that enjoy teaching what they know to some relatively new. I live in the DFW area by the way.

Thanks in advance,

Chad


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SirIrb

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#1 posted 01-25-2016 03:12 PM

Main Question: is it table or cabinet mounted trunnion? If you removed the table would the guts (mechanics) go with the table or would they stay on the base?

Or what type of saw do you have? List the make and model and that would tell us.

Based on that we can assist on tweaking the saw.

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TheOtherMrRogers

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#2 posted 01-25-2016 03:19 PM

Chad,

Thanks for the question. I’d like to offer a few suggestions.

1: Find a local woodworker / woodworker’s club that you can get involved with.
2: On my first project, I had trouble “squaring up”. An old woodworker helped me realize that a straight cut does little on wood that isn’t straight. You might need to look carefully at how flat and parallel your wood is.
3: In these cases, sometimes a few simple hand tools can solve the problem.
4: Some older saws, (craftsman, etc) will shift when the tilt is locked. Check blade angle after you lock it (if this is possible).

Include some photos so we can see what you are going through. You might get some very good, specific advice.
I wish you the best.

Ray

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Walrus102882

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#3 posted 01-25-2016 03:56 PM

Thanks guys for getting back so quick. I’m currently at work but i will get some pics tonight for you. I have a 10” premium craftsmen table saw. It has cabinet mounted trunnions. Here a link to the saw.

http://www.craftsman.com/craftsman-professional-1-3-4-hp-premium-hybrid-10inch/p-00922116000P

One problem i’m having is that one side of the fence is perpendicular to the table, but the other side is not. I know this particular fence is not the best, but its about 1/8’ to 1/4” off while the other side remains perfectly perpendicular.

It could very well be the wood. My table squares had two squared sides so i thought it should square up nicely. Perhaps not.

Thanks again and ill get some pics tonight!

Chad

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#4 posted 01-25-2016 03:56 PM

The best service available will be found right here from experienced woodworkers, and it’s free; just state the name and model of the machine. To see if the machine is cutting properly, take sample cuts at 90° and 45°, both at tilt and at the miter gauge. Check with a good combination square. If it doesn’t read what you want it to be, then it is time to come here and ask for help.

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#5 posted 01-25-2016 04:07 PM

Hi Chad,

You mentioned the relationship of the fence to the table as being perpendicular. It may just be the way you worded it, but have you aligned your blade and fence with the miter slots?

Even with a weak fence, there is no way it should be off by 1/8 to 1/4 of an inch on one side and not the other. Plus, while not the best fence ever made, that fence should be plenty serviceable.

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Walrus102882

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#6 posted 01-25-2016 04:23 PM

I aligned it to the miter gauge and saw blade in the parallel direction, what i’m referring to in the perpendicular directions is when use a square between the table top and the fence rail. One side is perfectly perpendicular the other side is not, like the fence rail is bent inward.

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#7 posted 01-25-2016 04:58 PM

It looks like you have the Craftsman 22116, made by Steel City/Orion. It’s got the wide cabinet mounted trunnions, that should be fairly easy to align. This is something you should attempt yourself….it’s not hard, and it help you get familiar with how it works. It’s just a matter of loosening 4 bolts under the table table…one at each corner, and tapping the table top til the miter slots are parallel with the blade. Once it’s in alignment, tighten the bolts a little at a time, and alternate opposite corners as you go. It’s a pretty decent hybrid saw. It has the same guts as the former Ridgid R4511 and Steel City 35926/35930 saws.

The fence issue sounds like something could be wrong with the way the fence faces are attached to the steel fence tube, or the fence tube was manufactured wrong. This saw has a steel Biese style t-square knockoff…it’s not a bad fence design, but that doesn’t mean it’s not defective. If the fence tube is flat and straight, the faces should sit flush against it and also be flat and straight. Check that the faces are tightened down to the tube fully., It might be possible to shim the faces to get them in the correct position. It’s also possible that the HDPE faces were cut wrong…in which case they could be milled flat. If the saw was bought new, I’d have Sears look into it for you if it’s truly defective. 1/8” to 1/4” is a lot to be off by. Can you take pics of the face deviation? You could even build an aux fence to slip over the top, but you shouldn’t have to.

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